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19 Dec 2017 22:27:19
Cardinals continue to push for Donaldson which may push the Jays to retsock now instead of rebuild now.

Cards-Jays
Donaldson.J
for
Weaver.L, Perez.D, Bader.H

Royals-Jays
Morales.K
for
Strahm.M

With the Royals potentially losing a lot this off season, getting a familiar face back at a reasonable price will help

Philies-Jays
Stroman.M, Pilar.K
for
Hernandez.C, Thompson.J, Williams.N

Philies get 2 established pieces for some youngsters

JaysFan

1.) 20 Dec 2017 00:05:57
Jays not getting enough for Donaldson, Stroman and Pillar.


2.) 20 Dec 2017 08:58:42
That’s a good deal for Donaldson but I’m not quite sure if the Hays make the deal for Stoman and Pillar.


3.) 20 Dec 2017 15:42:47
Strahm isn't with KC anymore.


 

 

12 Dec 2017 23:57:06
The Jays can't compete right now with Yanks but when the Jays top prospects come ready they need to have a team to compete. Forget what the Jays GM says

Jays-Cards
Donaldson.J
for
Weaver.L, Gomber.A, Kelly.C
The Cards lost out on Stanton but get another big slugger

Jays-WhiteSox
Morales.K
for
Sanchez.Y, Fry.J
Sox could use a good DH

Jays-Marlins
Ramirez.H, Pilar.K, Pentocost.M, Reid-Foley.S
for
Ozuna.M
Couple of good prospects and affordable OF options

1. Stroman.M
2. Sanchez.A
3. Happ.J
4. Weaver.L
5. Estrada.M

CL-Osuna.R
SU-Tepera.R
SU-Loup.A
MR-Leone.D
MR-Barnes.D
LR-Fry.J


1. Travis.D-2B
2. Ozuna.M-RF
3. Martin.R-C
4. Smoak.J-1B
5. Hernandez.DH
6. Tulo-SS
7. Sanchez.Y-3B
8. Alford.A-LF
9. Pompey.D-CF

Diaz.A-IF
Kelly.C-C
Carrera.E-OF
Pearse.S-1B

JaysFan

1.) 13 Dec 2017 06:25:44
So, let's get this straight, every team has to buy really, really high on the Blue Jays players.

But when it comes to Ozuna, he can be had for a defense-first CF, a mid-level pitching prospect, a guy the Blue Jays didn't even care to protect from the Rule5 draft, and an outrighted player?

Get out of here.


2.) 13 Dec 2017 12:34:14
The Jays/ Cards deal might be doable. it would come down to preferences and protections. The Cards don't have someone behind Kelly as the heir apparent for Yadi's spot. A different prospect/ suspect would be needed.

The other two trades are tripe/ garbage.


3.) 14 Dec 2017 20:11:47
Why would the Sox want Kendrys Morales?


4.) 16 Dec 2017 17:42:16
That lineup is s**t. I don't care if they're rebuilding, that's just pathetic.


 

 

23 Oct 2017 00:30:33
Jays Off Season

Sign
Cain.L 2 yrs - $30 mil


Trade
Donaldson.J
for
Weaver.L, Sierra.M, DeJong.P

Cards have said that they really want Josh and plan on making a push for him, a good enough offer and the Jays will trade.

Marse.J, Ramirez.H, Pearce.S
for
Headley.C

Yanks need money to resign Fraizer
and others and they don't need a $14 mil backup

JaysFan

1.) 23 Oct 2017 05:32:05
You're underselling Donaldson, by a lot. I doubt that gets Donaldson to St. Louis.

And I bet you Cain gets more years elsewhere. He's the only decent CF up for grabs in FA.


2.) 23 Oct 2017 19:56:43
Agreed. I think they start asking for Reyes. If the Cards like Flaherty enough, which I think they do, maybe they give in.


 

 

21 Aug 2017 16:10:55
Donaldson.J
for
Weaver.L, Bader.H(Cardinals)

Bautista.J
for
Raquet.N(Nationals)

Happ.J, Stroman.M
for
Bowden.B, Walker.C, Tapia.R,
Howard.S(Rockies)

2018 Jays 2019

1B Smoak.J Guerrero.V
2B Travis.D Bichette.B
3B ? Walker.C
SS Tulo Gurriel.L
OF Bader.H Bader.H
OF Pilar.K Pompey.D
OF Tapia.R Tapia.R
C Martin.R Pentocost.M
DH Morales.K Tellez,R
OF Pompey.D Alford.A
C Maile.L Maile.L
IF Goins.R Urena.R
IF Barney.D ?

SP Sanchez.A Sanchez.A
SP Weaver.L Weaver.L
SP Estrada.M Reid-Foley.
SP Howard.S Zeuch.TJ
SP ? Borucki.R
RP Osuna.R Osuna.R
RP Barnes.D
RP Raquet.N
RP Leone.D
RP Dermody.M
RP Tepara.R

JaysFan

1.) 23 Aug 2017 16:42:13
Yeah, let's lock in an 18-year-old 3B, who hasn't played a single game above High-A ball, and has never played 1B as a professional ballplayer, let's take him and slot him into the 1B role when he'll be 20 years old.

Vladdy Jr. won't be making his debut that early, and if he does, it won't be until mid-to-late 2019.

First Tellez, now Guerrero.


 

 

09 Jul 2017 17:44:23
T.O-St.L

Donalsdon.J
for
Weaver.L, Perez.D, Bader.H

Cards get an all star 3B and give up top prospects for the years of control

T.O-Col

Stroman.M
for
Freeland.K, Dahl.D

Rockies finally get Stroman and give up depth where they already have talent

T.O-ChiC

Happ.J
for
Candelario.J, Paulino.J

Cubs get a final push for a repeat

T.O-Wash

Estrada.M, Tulo.T(eat 2017 salary)
for
Soto.J, Neuse.S

Nats get a replacement this season for Turner and flip him next year and depth in the rotation for a playoff push

T.O-LAD

Bautista.J, Liriano.F
for
Tholes.A, Heredia.S

Dodgers give up 1 prospect and a player already out for the season for experience in the playoffs

2018 Jays

1B-Smoak.J
2B-Travis.D
3B-Candelario.J
SS-Urena.R
OF-Dahl.D
OF-Tholes.A
OF-Pilar.K
C- Martin.R
DH-Morales.K

OF-Goins.R
C -McGuire.R
IF-Alford.A

1.Sanchez.A
2.Freeland.K
3.Weaver.L
4.Reid-Foley
5.

CL-Osuna.R
SU-Barnes.D
SU-
MR-Tepera.R
MR-Leone.D
LR-

JaysFan

1.) 09 Jul 2017 17:56:30
Tulowitzki to the Nationals makes no sense. Their intentions is to use Trea Turner at SS for a long time.


2.) 09 Jul 2017 18:20:47
uh stats, you didn't read the part when he says they flip Tulo to another team in the offseason did you? But anyways you are right it wouldn't make sense for the Nationals to acquire another SS.


3.) 09 Jul 2017 19:33:58
Why do you have Goins as an outfielder and Alford as an infielder?


4.) 09 Jul 2017 22:26:17
Why would the Nationals pick up someone they'd have to move later? Instead, they could give up much less for rental options.


 

 

 

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30 Dec 2016 15:14:54
Jays Off Season

Sign
Worley. V 3yrs - $12 mil
O'Flaherty. E 2yrs - $3 mil
Conger. H 2yrs - $4 mil
Bautista. J 1 yr - $15 mil

Trade
Upton for "A" level prospect
Smoak for "A" level prospect


1. Travis-2B
2. Pilar-CF
3. Donaldson-3B
4. Morales-DH
5. Bautista-LF
6. Tulo-SS
7. Martin-C
8. Pearse-1B
9. Pompey-RF

Conger-C
Carrera-OF
Tellez-1B/ DH
Barney-IF

1.Sanchez
2.Stroman
3.Happ
4.Estrada
5.Liriano

CL-Osuna
SU-Biagini
SU-O'Flaherty
SU-Grilli
MR-Worley
MR-Loup
MR-Barnes

Bautista won't get a better deal
There is enough power in the lineup and Tellez add more plus a LH bat.

JaysFan

1.) 30 Dec 2016 18:17:39
Eric O'Flaherty already signed a minor league deal with Atlanta.

That would be a comical overpay for Vance Worley. He'll be lucky if he gets much more than a minor league deal somewhere.

And what do you mean "A" level prospect? Like playing in Single-A ball? Because there are several top prospects playing Single-A ball. Are we talking those?

This is where it helps to be somewhat more specific.


2.) 30 Dec 2016 21:43:44
Upton and Smaak won't bring in an A level prospect.


 

 

07 Dec 2016 00:23:53
Jays Sign

Revere. B 3yrs - $18mil
Feliz. N 2yrs - $13mil
Logan. B 2yrs - $10mil
Hudson. D 3yrs - $12mil
Navarro. D 2yrs - $8mil

Revere-LF
Travis-2B
Donaldson-3B
Morales-DH
Tulo-SS
Martin-C
Smoak/ Pearce-1B
Upton-RF
Pilar-CF

Pearce/ Smoak-IF
Carrera-OF
Barney-IF
Goins-IF

Sanchez
Stroman
Happ
Estrada
Liriano

Osuna
Logan
Feliz
Biagini
Hudson
Grilli.

JaysFan

1.) 07 Dec 2016 08:11:49
Did you see what Brett Cecil signed for?

Expect Boone Logsn to sign for similar. (Hint: you're not remotely close)


2.) 07 Dec 2016 10:36:34
If our outfield is upton-pillar and Revere, we are in serious trouble.

Logan will be too expensive for the Jay's and they won't pay 4mil a year again for Navarro. They'll look elsewhere.


 

 

19 Nov 2016 00:51:00
Sign
E. E 4 yrs - $84mil (+club option)
Cecil. B 3 yrs - $18mil
Rzepczynski. M 3 yrs - $15mil
Barney. D 2 yrs - $4mil

Trade
Smoak
for
Low level prospect

1.Travis-2B
2.Upton-RF
3.Donaldson-3B
4.E. E-1B
5.Morales-DH
6.Tulo-SS
7.Martin-C
8.Pilar-CF
9.Pompey-LF

Carrera-OF
McGuire-C
Goins-IF
Barney-IF

1.Sanchez
2.Estrada
3.Stroman
4.Happ
5.Liriano

CL-Osuna
SU-Biagini
SU-Cecil
MR-Grilli
MR-Rzepcynski
MR-Barnes
LR-Tepara.

JaysFan

1.) 19 Nov 2016 09:23:52
Holy crap Jays fans are delusional, EE WILL NOT GO BACK TO THE JAYS AND NEITHER WILL BAUTISTA. EE is an awful defender who at this point is a DH only, having him play 1B for 140+ games only makes a team worse I can't believe I have to tell a jays fan that, I watched 0 blue jays games this season and I know that.


2.) 19 Nov 2016 13:54:44
You do realize Morales could play first, right?


3.) 19 Nov 2016 14:34:36
Clearly Mambaout you know nothing about Edwin Encarnacion's defense at all. Sure he isn't a gold glover, but he is not a god awful defender. Morales could play 1st base but he is more certified at DH. Do I think Edwin will come back? No, I want him back but it will not happen. Also basically no Jays fans want Bautista back. He can't catch up to the fastball. It's also kinda stupid to say Mambaout that you watched 0 Blue Jays games last year and you know that Edwin is terrible defender. It makes 0 sense, maybe you were talking about is 3B days when he was called E5. But I will agree on one thing, Edwin is better off playing DH for the rest of his career. But he is not that bad of a defender.


4.) 19 Nov 2016 17:52:14
I'm not saying I know defensive sabermetrics, I tried to look them up but couldn't find what much meant other than RTOT, average is 0. Good is up to +5 great +10 bad is -5 horrible is -10. Wanna know where EE was? In the -5 range add in the fact that he didn't even play 80 games at 1st, if you have him play 120-140 games at 1B that might go to around -7/ -8. That's borderline horrible, Morales can not play 1B. He hasn't played over 51 games at first since 2009. He would be Worse than EE! I know this because I constantly read baseball sites like mlbtraderumors. They basically said there was no chance at all that he'd come back after Morales that's what everyone has said. Why have 2 DHs? Hey if you want your team to be bad be my guest.


5.) 19 Nov 2016 18:55:49
You said Edwin was an awful defender, I will say he is no amazing 1B but he has made some decent plays last year. Stats don't lie as well which I understand but he saved Toronto's bacon a couple of times. If we get him back we would want Edwin at least 100 times at firstbase (100-110). I never said Morales will play 1B everyday I said he could responding to Red Sox guy even though he wouldn't.


 

 

11 Feb 2016 22:24:05
Sign
Bautista. J 4 yrs $88 mil

Yes I know he can get more on the open market but he has said that he wants to retire a Jay ans will accept a little less

E. E, Smith. D, Wise. C
for
Garcia. J

Cardinals have an abundance of young starting pitchers and NEED an upgrade at 1B. He is not the best defensively but there are not many better offensively

1.Pilar-CF
2.Donaldson-3B
3.Bautista-RF
4.Tulo-SS
5.Colabello-DH
6.Martin-C
7.Smoak-1B
8.Travis-2B
9.Pompey-LF

1.Stroman
2.Garcia
3.Estrada
4.Dickey
5.Happ

Cl-Osuna
SU-Storen
SU-Sanchez
MR-Cecil
MR-Loup
LR-Hutchinson
LR-Chavez.

JaysFan

1.) 11 Feb 2016 23:35:26
That would be a comical overpay on a Bautista extension, and I hope for everything that the Jays do it.


2.) 12 Feb 2016 04:43:19
Are you suggesting the Jays trade Edwin and other pieces for Jaime Garcia? I just don't understand.


3.) 12 Feb 2016 13:13:47
Bautista is 35 years old you want to give him 4 year extension for 22 million a year. Not wise. And the Encarnacion trade is awful.


 

 

31 Jul 2015 02:55:20
What is left to do

1. Tulo-SS
2. Donaldson-3B
3. Bautista-RF
4. Encarnacian-DH
5. Martin-C
6. Smoak-1B
7. Pilar-CF
8. Colabello-LF
9. Travis-2B

Price
Dickey
Hutchinson
Buehrle
Estrada

Osuna-CL
Sanchez
Hawkins
Cecil
Loup
Schultz

JaysFan

1.) 31 Jul 2015 15:18:27
Getting pitching the other 4 days.

I still think Toronto misses the playoffs entirely. I don't think adding David Price and a SS they didn't need gets them there. They have a lot more needs.


 

 

 

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25 Dec 2017 03:43:28
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16 Dec 2017 15:38:14
Not enough from Yanks.

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Not enough for Josh.

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04 Nov 2017 17:58:55
Donaldson is worth way more.

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