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28 Oct 2017 08:56:51
Dodgers Get:
3B Kyle Seager
Mariners Get:
OF Joc Pederson
SP Yadier Alvarez (#3 mlb/#45 lad)
3B Edwin Rios (#16 lad)
Dodgers add Seager to play 3B and move Turner back to 2B. Plus itll add the Seager Brothers (nickname would be: Smash Brothers). They do give up Pederson but he could be traded as they have 3 good young OF prospects who are near ready in Verdugo, Toles and Diaz. Plus having Puig, Hernandez, Ethier and Taylor still on the roster and with Ethier as the other guy out.
Mariners add a young OF who can turn things around with a new team. Alvarez is a good SP prosoect but isn't the best one in the LAD prospects (Walker Buehler is #1 LAD prospect and top 10 in MLB). Plus adding Rios can help as he potentially take over at 3B.
C: Barnes / Grandel
1B: Bellinger
2B: Turner
SS: C. Seager
3B: K. Seager
LF: Hernandez / Verdugo / Toles
CF: Taylor
RF: Puig
1.) 29 Oct 2017 01:25:51
It’s a realistic trade but probably won’t happen. Mariners are going all in right now before Cano, Cruz, and Hernandez are too old.
28 Aug 2017 06:31:19
The Tigers should do a mini rebuild but not full blown.
Try to trade Verlander and Kinsler to get major league ready prospects
maybe try to trade Castellanos too
Sanchez will be given $5 million as part of a buyout.
But i feel Victor needs to retire..due to having 2 irregular hearbeats stints to the DL but should be added to the coaching staff in a staff rebuild. Which i feel that Vizquel needs to be manager while Victor takes over hitting (can help cut down strikeouts for the team)
1.) 28 Aug 2017 16:48:02
VMart won't leave money on the table. Blame Ilitch and Dombrowski for giving him money this late in his career.
2.) 28 Aug 2017 18:54:59
If it threatens his post-baseball life, he may have to. plus he most likely will still get his $18 million
The Tigers can pay him a 6 yr $18 million deal to be part of the coaching staff or front office
I believe they can stretch that $18 million over time just like the NBA. not sure but if they do, they can do that.
3.) 28 Aug 2017 20:05:01
what if Martinez doesn't want to be a coach or in the front office.
4.) 28 Aug 2017 23:40:57
"If it threatens his post-baseball life, he may have to. plus he most likely will still get his $18 million"
Or, he'll just remain injured and collect on the money, much like Prince Fielder. He's not going to leave money on the table, at all.
09 Jul 2017 11:17:30
It is time that the Tigers trade players like:
- JD Martinez
- Justin Wilson
- Justin Verlander
- Ian Kinsler
- Anibal Sanchez (if any takers even tho he's pitched better lately)
- Miguel Cabrera (I HATE TO SAY IT)
But my reason for posting is Verlander.
Despite his struggles, he carries an intriguing arm to a contender and 1 team in my mind stands out and that's the DBacks. They are a suprise contender and adding Verlander to the mix would give them the heads up on the Dodgers who would be looking at Verlander. Despite his struggles, he still carries value.
Tigers get:
SP Patrick Corbin
RP Jimmy Sherfy (ARI: 13th prospect)
OF Christian Walker (ARI: 30th prospect)
DBacks get
SP Justin Verlander
OF Mid level Prospect
Cash ($30,000,000)
Tigers get Corbin, who also is struggling but can help the Tigers as they try to get younger but not a rebuild that'll take 5 years. Just maybe a year or 2. Change of scenary may help. They also get Sherfy who can help the Tigers as soon as next year out of the bullpen. Then Walker who can help at 1B/OF and a pinch hitter.
DBacks get Verlander to help them get past the Dodgers in the Divison. He would be the #2 SP behind Grienke. The rotation potentially can look like:
Grienke - Verlander - Ray - Walker - Godley/Shipley
Itll help them better then with Corbin in the rotation. They also get cash ($30,000,000) that'll help with $10,000,000 each in 2017-2018-2019.
Whatcha guys think? Both SP are struggling and a change of scenery can help them both
1.) 09 Jul 2017 15:01:32
I think Detroit would want more back. I think Godley and/ or Shipley would have to be included.
2.) 09 Jul 2017 16:02:54
Cookie you are the one biggest bandwagon fans ever. You think teams will just give the Tigers players in trades when they are winning. then when its time to rebuild you have them underselling their players. Verlander could bring more.
06 Jul 2017 00:45:08
Well the Verlander to the Cubs rumor is getting a lot of fans into it. They have a lot of young talent that the Tigers can get. I feel they can get a young talent who can contribute as soon as this year and add a few other players.
But they also are linked to Avila. Which would be smart to move them in different trades but adding both together can increase the talent that wed get back.
(Team rank/Mlb rank)
Tigers get:
SP A. Alzolay (21/--)
IF C. Young (12/--)
IF J. Candelario (3/82)
OF K. Schwarber
Cubs get:
SP J. Verlander
C A. Avila
Cash ($25,000,000)
Tigers can get Ian Happ but he is doing better then Schwarber so the Cubs may rather want to hold onto him over Schwarber. Schwarber is the key piece in the return as he can return to C and spot start in the OF. Alzolay is a less intriguing as other pitchers the Cubs have but he can be moved to the bullpen. Young can be a future utility player as he has played all IF spots along with time in the OF. Candelario can potentially take over 1B when Victor leaves since Miggy (if neither are traded) can move to DH.
Cubs get Verlander to bolster the rotation which despite having a down year is a good pitcher in the playoffs and adding Avila would be like Lester and Ross since theyd pitch and catch one another.
1.) 06 Jul 2017 07:42:25
No way the Cubs give up on Schwarber for Verlander. He's still solid but not the old JV. Plus, Schwarber isn't going to catch again. Take Schwarber out and add another Cubs prospect in the 10-15 range and it looks like a good deal.
2.) 06 Jul 2017 13:01:01
Given his defense, I think the Cubs could sell Schwarber and not be overly regretful.
3.) 06 Jul 2017 14:33:50
I think the value is fair on both sides for sure. But:
1) Schwarber is a DH, believe me.
2) I don't see the cubs doing it. Schwarber is basically theo's first son and the fan base in chicago thinks he's as untouchable as Bryant.
To put it in prospective our local ESPN radio station had a poll question yesterday asking would you do Schwarber for Verlander straight up if the Tigers fronted half of the salary and it was 70/ 30 no. Not saying I agree at all, but the fan base would honestly riot if they traded schwarber.
4.) 06 Jul 2017 15:40:25
Understandable to all comments
With his slump this year in hitting and defense. the value is down a little. Yes he played a part in the playoffs last year but to play full time, he can't with the Cubs cause he could play at C but the Cubs havnt tried that yet this year. So in the OF, well he was demoted due to a slump.
So i feel the Cubs fans would trade him and yes the fans like him but the Tigers fans love Verlander but it may be time to trade him.
I feel that its reasonable to what the Tigers may ask for in return for Verlander but they also get Avila to help offset the production of Schwarber (which Avila is hitting nearly double the BA)
20 May 2017 05:34:49
A good trade for 2 teams and both are struggling and both play at the opposing teams area of most need and both can benefit from a change of scenery
DET & NYM
Tigers get:
OF Curtis Granderson
('17: $15.00 M)
Mets get:
SP Anibal Sanchez
('17: $16.80 M)
('18: $16.00 M club/$5.00 M buyout)
The Tigers have depth at SP right not while the Mets dont...the Mets have OF depth when the Tigers dont
This trade gives the Tigers a much needed OF despite his struggles ans he would return to DET where he was a fan favorite before the Scherzer/Jackson trade. He may not play much CF but he can platoon there with Romine/Collins and send Mahtook down to work on his swing. This would save the Tigers $1.8 million this year and $5.0 million/$16.0 million next year.
The Mets currently are without Syndagaard, Matz and Lugo plus with Harvey struggling...adding Sanchez (change of scenery can help) would give the Mets an extra arm in the rotation till one of their injured starters come back. Plus having a lot of OF means Granderson is the odd man out.
This trade doesn't make either team worse...it gives each of them depth at their worst position (DET: CF...NYM: SP)
1.) 20 May 2017 23:30:52
It makes the Mets worse. Animal Sanchez is not an upgrade on any pitching staff.
Granderson is a significant upgrade on the Tigers.
2.) 23 May 2017 15:44:55
I think it's a great trade but both teams will be wimps to do it. Two players who are both a big part of their teams make it hard to part with them.
3.) 23 May 2017 18:22:55
Anibal Sanchez just got optioned down to the minors because he's terrible.
Granderson is actually good.
How is this a great trade?
4.) 24 May 2017 00:14:37
How is Anibal Sanchez a vital part of the Tigers, he didn't make the rotation, did horrible in the bullpen, and is now in the minors. Granderson is just a slow starter, he will pick it up eventually.
5.) 24 May 2017 23:09:32
Cookie, that's only good for the Tigers.
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06 Jul 2017 15:35:19
With a Verlander trade rumors heating up to the Cubs and the recent call up of Schwarber
Could that possibily be a player the Tigers would look at if they do trade Verlander to CHC. He would be the player i'd go for over Happ and i doubt the Cubs trade Baez or Russell (if we can get Russell, thatll be awesome but i doubt it) so Schwarber is most likely the guy to get
1.) 08 Jul 2017 15:45:23
The most significant thing the Cubs will give up for Verlander is taking on his contract. Unless the Tigers take on a majority of his contract (which defeats the purpose of trading him), they won't get anyone major.
06 Feb 2017 04:03:39
I wonder if Wieters should try the OF like some other catchers have like Vogt and Norris.
Could elevate his market
If Desmond can sign as an OF from SS and then from an OF to 1B...then why not
1.) 06 Feb 2017 04:49:12
Because Desmond is athletic. Wieters is not exactly the most nimble, versatile of players.
2.) 06 Feb 2017 07:01:50
I think that would go terribly wrong for Wieters.
3.) 08 Feb 2017 12:47:45
Norris has played OF?
27 Dec 2016 23:20:04
What can the tigers do to get McCutchen?
1.) 27 Dec 2016 23:38:52
Most of the time the team trying to acquire said player offers a package that the team that said player belongs too likes.
2.) 28 Dec 2016 02:40:36
Have prospects, that's how, and guess what, they don't. By prospects I mean top elite prospects.
3.) 28 Dec 2016 03:15:29
Trade fulmer I mean Ik that wouldn't happen but that's the only thing that would get accepted.
4.) 28 Dec 2016 04:22:59
Give us Verlander and pay his whole salary.
06 Dec 2016 19:47:37
With Sale to the Red Sox. do they have the best rotation?
I came up with 10 teams who have a good 1-2-3 rotation, out of these 10 teams, who is in top 5?
BOS: Price - Sale - Porcello
DET: Verlander - Zimmermann - Fulmer
TEX: Hamels - Darvish - Cashner
ATL: Teheran - Dickey - Colon
NYM: DeGrom - Harvey - Syndergaard
WAS: Scherzer - Strasburg - Gonzalez
CHC: Arrieta - Lester - Hendricks
ARI: Grienke - Miller - Walker
LAD: Kershaw - Ryu - Maeda
SF: Bumgarner - Cueto - Moore
My top 5 would be:
1) CHC
2) BOS
3) NYM
4) WAS
5) SF.
1.) 06 Dec 2016 23:00:37
Chicago is getting older and was aided by having no significant injuries. They also rely heavily on Hendricks, who is extremely likely to regress.
Boston is in the same boat with Porcello. Expecting him to continue that .269 BABIP (career is .307) would be foolhardy. I also think we've all seen the best of David Price.
Mets have so many injury risks (Harvey, Matz, deGrom) . I can't imagine a hard-thrower like Syndergaard stays healthy this much longer.
Washington is probably #1 for me, even without Sale. Scherzer and Strasburg are legit. Roark is hugely underrated. Roark's numbers this year were actually worse than previous, but his peripherals are getting better.
Giants are good, but they'll rely too much on Bumgarner. Need to trust Cueto. Moore is really good when his command is on. I'll be interested to see if he can keep healthy. Actually, biggest wild card in that rotation is Samardzija.
My top 5 would be:
1. Washington
2. Boston
3. LA Dodgers
4. San Francisco
5. CHI Cubs.
2.) 06 Dec 2016 23:26:09
Sanchez-Estrada-Happ?
3.) 06 Dec 2016 23:37:30
You forgot about the team that was ranked first in the AL last year. Check it out.
4.) 07 Dec 2016 01:29:01
Estrada and Happ won't continue what they did. Both regressed to the mean in the second half last year. In fact, Estrada was not good in the second half last year.
I doubt there's many people around the game who project significant improvement from either, and for them, there's only one way to go: down.
5.) 07 Dec 2016 04:25:19
Huskers makes very valid points, also I think it's dumb to bring this up now when there's still 2 or 3 Aces that can be acquired. However my top 5
1. Nationals
2. Giants
3. Red Sox
4. Dodgers
5. Tigers
Why? Scherzer and Strasburg are just too dominant, Giants they have 2 Aces as well, i'd rather have MadBum and Cueto than Sale and Price. Red Sox very good three not sure how Price will pitch, and Porcello won't be close to being as good. Dodgers plain and simple Kershaw best pitcher, Maeda isn't a bad 2. Tigers very underrated Verlander seemed to figure it out, Fulmer could be great and Zimmermann is really good.
I don't have the Cubs nor Mets because of probable age decline and Health issues respectively.
6.) 07 Dec 2016 06:41:56
Huskers, you are statistically wrong about Happ, he actually pitched better in the 2nd half of last year than the first (12-3 3.36 ERA, 1.20 WHIP in the first half vs 8-1 2.94 ERA, 1.12 WHIP.
7.) 07 Dec 2016 08:13:21
You're right. But no one in baseball believes he will continue it. He'll regree and be a league average or slightly worse pitcher. Absolutely no chance he sustains the numbers he put up.
8.) 07 Dec 2016 12:37:24
Well huskies, my crystal ball is telling me hexplain will be just fine.
9.) 07 Dec 2016 13:13:50
Any top five rotation that excludes the AL Pennant winning Indians is wrong. Cleveland with Kluber Carrasco and Salazar are at least a top three rotation with the Cubs and Mets joining them as the three best rotations in baseball. That's right. Boston wouldn't even get the bronze medal.
Sorry to rain on your parade.
10.) 07 Dec 2016 15:42:47
Sanchez-Stroman-Estrada is one of the best in the league not to mention they still have Happ and Liriano for 4 and 5.
11.) 07 Dec 2016 15:46:04
I do agree Kluber-Carrasco and Salazar are a formidable 1-2-3. Not the best but very good.
12.) 07 Dec 2016 16:00:27
What would make anyone think J. A. Happ can continue pace?
He was almost 40 points under his career BABIP and his ground ball percentage is rising. He's going to regress, and it's going to be really, really nasty. In fact, he posted his worst xFIP over the past 3 seasons.
In fact, all the major projections have him with a significant rise in ERA and basic stats simply with a (still) under career-average BABIP.
Anyone who thinks Happ will continue his dominance has no understanding of stat trends in baseball. None.
13.) 07 Dec 2016 18:49:36
Huskers. You must be the Jerk lol. Happ will be just fine next year, unless he battles injuries.
14.) 07 Dec 2016 20:38:38
I will put money on the fact he gets significantly worse. Literally zero chance to suggest he is as good.
Unless you choose to believe he will be different than literally every historical trend in the game. He deviated from every metric. That is 100% unsustainable. Quit being a ridiculous fan and realize how stats work.
15.) 08 Dec 2016 00:27:41
Didn't say he will be as good as last year stat guy. I said he will be just fine next year. He gets no credit at all for having a good last year and a half. Expert.
16.) 08 Dec 2016 02:35:01
He got tons of credit. But the peripherals were not good. xFIP over 4, drop in K rate, rise in BB rate.
People will look at the 20 wins (which is a stupid stat) and the ERA (which doesn't tell the whole story) and call it a huge year. Realistically, he was above average.
And every time I've suggested he won't be as good, you keep suggesting he'll be fine. I promise you, it'll be bad. There is no reason, none whatsoever, to believe he'll continue this pace. He's a league average pitcher who relied heavily on defense last year.
All predictions have him regressing dramatically next year, except Canadian folks, I guess. There's a reason they lost the Expos.
04 Dec 2016 02:27:04
May not happen but what would it take for the tigers to get McCutchen?
I know they must dump salary
Sanchez is $16.80 million
JD is $11.75 million
Pelfrey is $8.00 million
Lowe is $5.50 million
Getting rid of them 4 can clear up a lot of money and McCutchen is only making nearly what Pelfrey and Lowe combined. so Sanchez and JD also gives $28.55 million also
So what would the tigers have to trade to get McCutchen?
1.) 04 Dec 2016 14:33:20
Moya, Fulmer to start and possibly some like Iglesias and Jacoby Jones.
2.) 04 Dec 2016 15:41:23
Fulmer? really?
3.) 04 Dec 2016 18:38:30
I mean if they want the Bucs to take on all that money and those players they need to give up someone good. It is that simple.
4.) 05 Dec 2016 16:20:31
CS is right. If the Pirates are taking on all those contracts, Tigers have to move a great player.
28 Aug 2017 18:54:59
If it threatens his post-baseball life, he may have to. plus he most likely will still get his $18 million
The Tigers can pay him a 6 yr $18 million deal to be part of the coaching staff or front office
I believe they can stretch that $18 million over time just like the NBA. not sure but if they do, they can do that.
06 Jul 2017 15:40:25
Understandable to all comments
With his slump this year in hitting and defense. the value is down a little. Yes he played a part in the playoffs last year but to play full time, he can't with the Cubs cause he could play at C but the Cubs havnt tried that yet this year. So in the OF, well he was demoted due to a slump.
So i feel the Cubs fans would trade him and yes the fans like him but the Tigers fans love Verlander but it may be time to trade him.
I feel that its reasonable to what the Tigers may ask for in return for Verlander but they also get Avila to help offset the production of Schwarber (which Avila is hitting nearly double the BA)
08 Feb 2017 06:21:51
I think this only works if we take on a bigger contract then Iglesias. Like Bailey or Phillips.
We can add Pelfrey into the deal if Bailey is included. But add another prospect/ young minor leaguer. Perhaps Moya.
28 Jan 2017 16:14:07
Jetjet25
They have 4 SP set with the 5th perhaps being Wheeler but adding Sanchez for Bruce is like your getting Sanchez for $2.5 million
Plus a few little pieces will be added
So adding $2.5 million may not hurt as much for the Mets.
Redsox Guy. i hear ya. Dumbrowski ruined that and he's slowly doing that with your redsox (kimbrel trade, sale trade to name a few) . Moncada couldve replaced Pedroia at 2B in a few yrs
Ive always said that the way Sales delivery is, i see Tommy John in his future and trading Moncada would decrease the value of the trade
Im glad Dumbrowski is gone. Avila is smart so i hope he knows what he's doing by not doing much. plus he said the tigers won't go over the luxury tax next year
Players on expiring contracts can help the tigers get trade value if we aren't in it and if they are playing better (pelfrey, lowe, kinsler, jd, sanchez and even upton)
20 Jan 2017 18:50:39
I wonder if the Tigers can try to get Profar in a deal involving JD
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