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MLB Rumors October 21 2014

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20 Oct 2014 21:43:13
Yankees Off-Season Plan

Sign LHP Jon Lester
Sign RHP Rafael Soriano
Sign LF Melky Cabrera
Sign LHP Andrew Miller
Trade for SS Troy Tulowitzki: Gardner, Betances, Pirela, PTBNL

Re-Sign David Robertson
Re-Sign Chase Headley
Re-Sign Brandon McCarthy

2015 Team is as follows:
C- McCann
1B- Teixeira
2B- Prado
3B- Headley
SS- Tulowitzki
LF- Cabrera
CF- Ellsbury
RF- Beltran
DH- Rodriguez

Rotation: Tanaka Lester Sabathia McCarthy Pineda

7th inning- Andrew Miller
Set-up: Soriano
Closer: Robertson

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20 Oct 2014 17:48:34
ANGELS OFFSEASON

I know a lot of Angels fans want to free up money by trading Josh Hamilton and CJ Wilson, but I have this question. Who would replace them?

OUTFIELD OPTIONS (If Hamilton Leaves)
Efren Navarro
Colin Cowgill
Grant Green

In addition to those three, the free agent market for the outfield isn't to great and trading for an outfielder would be unfavorable seeing as though the team wants to rebuild their farm.

So in all honesty, I think the Angels should hold onto Hamilton because he is our best option by far.

PITCHING OPTION (If CJ leaves)
Garrett Richards
Jered Weaver
Matt Shoemaker
Hector Santiago
Cory Rasmus

If CJ were to leave us, that would make our rotation a whole lot thinner, yes the free agent class of pitchers this offseason is strong but the Angels should think about holding off on spending big on a pitcher and save their draft pick. The Angels farm has produced great players and they need to get back into that mentality.

For me, keeping CJ is key to the success for next years season. He adds more depth to the rotation and can still be a solid number two or three man for us.


The Angel need to focus on fixing the little things this offseason, which is adding a lefty reliever like Andrew Miller

Also some bench help, I think the best way to do that is by signing Torii Hunter and using him as a DH, this would make CJ Cron drop down to the bench. Which would make the team deeper.

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20 Oct 2014 12:51:55
Reds off season:

Trade SP Homer Bailey and 2B Brandon Phillips to Yankees for INF-OF Martin Prado, RP Jose A. Ramirez and PTBNL (RP Jacob Lindgren after June draft)

Pick up Cueto's $10M option and try to sign him to extension

Buyout options of Ludwick and Hannahan (saves $6. 5M)

Non-tender Ondrusek (saves $2. 3M)

The trade saves them $11. 5M, which, allong with the other savings, brings their projected payroll of $133. 1M down to a more manageable $112. 8M. Prado would be in LF, with Kris Negron and Skip Schumaker splitting 2B. Rasiel Iglesias replaces Ondrusek in bullpen (or possibly goes into rotation along with Tony Cingrani)

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I don't know if I see them trading away Phillips.

Good thought process though.

natedub

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Reds would be all over this if they
could unload Phillips and his
salary!

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19 Oct 2014 22:54:30
ANGELS OFFSEASON

The Angels need some money off their payroll so.

Mets: Josh Hamilton, 17m per year of Hamilton

Angels: Jon Niese

THEN.

Dodgers: C. J. Wilson, 10m

Angels: Zach Lee

Now there's payroll space so.

Sign Francisco Liriano 2/23

Sign Andrew Miller 3/23

Angels get 2 good lefties and a lefty reliever along with a pitching prospect for Hamilton and Wilson

ROTATION OPTIONS
Richards
Shoemaker
Weaver
Liriano
Niese
Santiago
Rasmus

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19 Oct 2014 20:54:54
Phillies trade Rollins to the Dodgers for two minor leagers. Phillies trade Utley, J. Biddle plus 5 million dollars to Oakland for J. Samarjac.

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Sam is a free agent you don't have to trade for him

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^^^No, Samardzija is not a free agent until next season.


Also, I don't know if Chase Utley will waive his no-trade clause to go anywhere.

natedub

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19 Oct 2014 19:18:42
The Phillies trade M. Bryd, Ashe, Ruf to The Red Sox for Cespedes and another prospect.

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If the red sox where to trade Cespedes it sure would not be for another outfielder so byrd is out of the question

Sinko26

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This could b one massive trade including hamels and boston propects also

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If Cespedes gets dealt, it's for an arm, like the Mets' Gee or the Reds' Leake

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Reds trade cueto for cespedes and pnl. Then trade Chapman and Phillips to an AL team so phillips can dh. Then reds can release or trade ludwick and heisey.

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18 Oct 2014 18:12:15
Phillies Off-season:

Trade KC-PHI

Byrd for Christian Binford

Trade BOS-PHI

Cole Hamels for Henry Owens, Blake Swihart, Manuel Margot and Eduardo Escobar

Trade TB-PHI

Howard and 50 mil. for Enny Romero

Sign:
Colby Rasmus - 5 yrs, 70 mil
Yasmany Tomas - 7 yrs, 105 mil
Justin Masterson - 3 yrs, 39 mil

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If Hamels is traded to Boston, they would have to put Betts in the offer if they want a deal. No on Rasmus and Masterson.

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Red Sox had a payroll of $157M at season's end. Before arbitration and extensions. likely a additional $20-25M (which is a low number), you're suggesting they add the following:

Hamels- $24M
Rasmus- $14M
Tomas- $15M
Masterson- $13M

Red Sox 2015 Payroll would be somewhere between $240-250M. no way.

And no one is taking Howard, unless the Phillies eat the remaining $125M on his contract. And it certainly won't be a small market team like Tampa Bay.

natedub

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^He was saying those guys goto the Phillies, not the Red Sox.

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18 Oct 2014 17:47:41
C. Davis and U. Jimenez to the Phillies for R. Howard, D. Brown and 35. Million.

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No one is taking Ryan Howard, at all.

natedub

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Howard would be a good fit for the White Sox, if the Phillies would pay 50 Million of his contract. The Sox no longer have either of their DH"s. Two minor league prospects is all it would take.

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^No one wants Ryan Howard

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18 Oct 2014 16:32:04
WILD TRADE

Angels: Aroldis Chapman

Reds: Howie Kendrick, Kevin Jepsen, Mark Sappington

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The Reds have Phillips as their second baseman.

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The Reds will probably look to trade some of their players to reduce payroll, but Chapman will not be one of them

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18 Oct 2014 00:45:48
Rockies sign James Shields

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With what money?

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True that!

Tigers Fan

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The Rockies would do better if they could trade Tulowitski to St Louis for one of their starters and an outfielder, plus one of their top prospects.

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I doubt Shields wants to go to Colorado. Not exactly an attractive option for pitchers.

natedub

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18 Oct 2014 00:18:55
Yankees send Gardner, Pineda to Reds, Cervelli to Pirates

Reds send Latos, Bailey to the Yankees

Pirates send Jeff Locke to the Reds

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I can't see these happening. I think the Reds would want prospects for Latos and Bailey.

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Yea not happening

Giants28

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These deals allow NY to seriously upgrade their rotation, to one of the AL's best. Pittsburgh gets a better Catcher than any in their system, majors or minors, to replace Martin who will be out of their price range. The Reds cut payroll while remaining competitive next season, which is their goal. Gardner becomes the Left Fielder they've been needing and slots in behind Hamilton in the bating order as a steady on base performer for Votto and Frazier to knock in. Pineda and Locke are proven Pitchers, with cost control--better than prospects

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17 Oct 2014 01:49:24
Daniel Murphy for Yoenis Cespedes

Mets get a much needed outfielder
Red Sox get a much needed left-handed hitting 3rd baseman

Red Sox still have Castillo, Betts, Craig, Victorino, and Nava for their outfield

Mets can place Dilson Herrera at 2nd.

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I don't see how this even. To me Cespedes is a better overall player.

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Shane Victorino is a Free Agent

Tigers Fan

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Victorino is not a free agent. He signed a 3 year contract and has one year left.

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Daniel Murphy is a second baseman, which the red sox don't need

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I honestly wish this would happen but its not going to. You have to add in at least one pitcher (niese or montero maybe) and possibly a prospect to really get talks going.

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16 Oct 2014 17:11:10
The Dodgers trade Puig, Gordon plus another prospect to Tampa Bay for Longoria, Zobrest, and one of their starters. The Phillies trade Rollins to the Dodgers for two low level prospects.

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Zobrist is a free agent. the Dodgers could just sign him.

natedub

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^The Rays have a club option on him which they are definitely going to exercise.

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It depends. It's a $7. 5M Option or a $500K buyout. It really depends on what forecast the Rays are going themselves. If they don't see themselves being competitive, they won't spend $7. 5M.

natedub

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^Even I they don't think they'll contend, they'll still exercise the option. Zobrist is a great bargain at that price and would have a lot of offseason trade value

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16 Oct 2014 16:49:55
Royals sign Nick Markakis

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Orioles signed James Shields

oriolesfan41

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Do they have the cash to sign him?

natedub

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Shields is either staying in KC or going to Boston

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^^No they didn't.

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Royals are resigning James Shields

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Phillies sign Nick Markakis

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16 Oct 2014 03:58:20
As a Reds fan, I am very concerned about how the team will shake out financially in 2015. According to this web site the Reds payroll will be somewhere around $129M (figuring what money is already committed, what the eight arbitration eligible players will get, letting Ramon Santiago go as a free agent and buying out Ludwick and Hannahan). That is a $19M jump from the team-record $110M from last season, which would be awfully hard for a small market team to stomach Where does that money come from or, more accurately, who gets traded to keep the payroll at a more manageable amount?

Votto and his albatross of a contract will be almost impossible to trade. Phillips and Bruce are each due $12M next season. Cueto and Bailey are both at $10M, with Latos and Leake right behind. I believe the Reds will have to explore trades for young and inexpensive players is return such as:

SP Mike Leake and RP Manny Parra to Colorado for OF Corey Dickerson and PTBNL

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SP Homer Bailey and RP Logan Ondrusek to Boston for OF's Mookie Betts and Daniel Nava and P Matt Barnes

Either trade would address the void in LF and shave approx $9-10M off the payroll (which in Cincy may still not be enough). Thoughts?

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They still will need to trade 1 or 2 more players. that's why I think they should cut their loses and trade Cueto and chapman and then try to get rid of Heisey, phillips.

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Rockies won't give up offense for pitching considering their ballpark.

natedub

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If they acquired Betts it would allow them to trade Phillips for prospects and clear another $12M.

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^No, that's exactly the kind of trade the Rockies have to make if they ever plan to contend. They should have traded either Tulo or CarGo already for young pitching, but they can't seem to figure this out. They will never lure top tier free agent starters, so trades like this is their only alternative

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The Red Sox won't trade Betts for Bailey. Cueto, sure. But Bailey's simply to overpaid for their taste.

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I too am concerned about the Reds, especially when you consider that in 2016 they will have not one, but two players making in excess of $20M per season in Homer Bailey and Joey Votto (who I call the Reds "DH" or Designated Healer). I was surprised when ownership approved the move past $100M in payroll last year, and given the teams struggles I doubt Castellini will allow it to go any higher. I see the Reds trading off pieces at every opportunity and several years of fan frustration.

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Agree! that's why I think they should trade Cueto and Chapman now before losing them to free agency. They could get good prospect inreturn for them and maybe they can keep Latos, Leake and hope their own pitching prospects can come up and with what they get in the trades.

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16 Oct 2014 02:04:26
Yankees offseason:

Sign RHP Max Scherzer

Resign RHP David Robertson

Sign LHP Andrew Miller

Sign RHP Luke Gregerson

Resign IF Chase Headley

Sign SS Jed Lowrie

Sign OF Jonny Gomes

Resign RHP Brandon McCarthy

Yankees get: Howie Kendrick
Angels get: Jose Pirela, Jose A. Ramirez, Zoilo Almonte

2015 Lineup:
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Brett Gardner, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Carlos Beltran, RF
5. Alex Rodriguez, DH
6. Brian McCann, C
7. Howie Kendrick, 2B
8. Chase Headley, 3B
9. Jed Lowrie, SS

2015 Bench:
C Francisco Cervelli
IF Brendan Ryan
OF Jonny Gomes
IF Martin Prado

2015 Rotation:
1. Max Scherzer, RHP
2. Masahiro Tanaka, RHP
3. Brandon McCarthy, RHP
4. CC Sabathia, LHP
5. Shane Greene, RHP

2015 Bullpen:
RHP David Phelps
LHP Andrew Miller
RHP Adam Warren
LHP David Huff
RHP Luke Gregerson
RHP Dellin Betances

2015 Closer:
RHP David Robertson

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Martin Prado on the bench. He will make 11 million dollars in 2015

Tigers Fan

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Cc Sabathia 4th is the Rotation? I would have him at 3

Tigers Fan

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It would be laughable for NYY to do this. They need to break up their team, not build on it. Save some money for the future, they are not contenders as currently built.

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15 Oct 2014 17:26:20
Yankees Offseason:

Free Agent Signings:
- Hanley Ramirez, SS, 5/100
- Andrew Miller, RP, 3/21
- Jon Lester, SP, 6/120

Resignings:
- David Robertson, CL, 1/15. 3
- Brandon McCarthy, SP, 3/33
- Chase Headley, 3B/1B, 2/8

Line Up:
1) Brett Gardner, LF
2) Jacolby Elsburry, CF
3) Hanley Ramirez, SS
4) Carlos Beltran, RF
5) Brian McCann, C
6) Mark Teixeira, 1B
7) Alex Rodriguez, DH
8) Chase Headley, 3B
9) Martin Prado, 2B

Bench:
Francisco Cervelli, C
Rob Refsnyder, 2B
Brandon Ryan, SS
Chris Young, OF

Rotation:
1) Masahiro Tanaka
2) Jon Lester
3) Michael Pineda
4) Brandon McCarthy
5) CC Sabathia

Bullpen:
David Robertson, CL
Delin Betances, SU
Andrew Miller, LHP
David Phelps, RHP
Adam Warren, RHP
Shane Greene, RHP
Jacob Lindgren, LHP

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Yankees need to stay away from Hanely and get a stop gap or someone who isn't going to need to move to 3rd base. They need to get younger. Not sign another player past their prime.

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You're delirious if you think the Yankees will retain Headley for 2/8.

natedub

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I wanted to add another reason the Yankees should and need to stay away from Rameriz is his tendency to be lazy at times and he's injury prone.

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15 Oct 2014 09:12:20
Mariners get V Mart
Dump Morales
Dump Heart, Smoak
Dump Denorifa
Dump Erasmo Ramirier
Pick up: Mariners get V Mart
Yasmany Tomas
Ichiro
Billy Butler
A. J. Burnett

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Why would the Mariners want Ichiro back? And I don't think they are going to put up that much money.

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They are already losing Hart and Denorfia.

Why would the Mariners get both Martinez AND Butler. they can only have 1 DH and neither of them offer any defensive strength.

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15 Oct 2014 04:36:31
Angels Offseason

Trade with Dodgers
-----------------------------------------Carl Crawford/Corey Seager/Van Slyke for Mike Scioscia/Howie Kendrick
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Trade with Cubs

Hamilton (Angels eat a lot of contract) for Kyle Schwarber, ptbnl
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Sign Torii Hunter to 1 year 6.5 mil to DH
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Sign Joe Madden
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Lineup
1. Trout
2. Calhoun
3. Pujols
4. Hunter
5. Aybar
6. Seager
7. Green
8. Ianetta
9. Crawford
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Bench

Van Slyke, Beckham, Conger, Cron

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This is hilariously awful. That Dodger trade is not that good. I don't think the Cubs would give a top prospect who can't be traded until the summer for Hamilton. I don't think Hunter would go back to Anaheim. And what compensation are the Rays going to get for Madden?

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15 Oct 2014 02:06:17
Tigers offseason:

Tigers get: Jay Bruce, Aroldis Chapman, JP Howell

Reds get: Andre Ethier, Luis Marte, Miguel Rojas, PTBNL from Dodgers

Dodgers get: Nick Castellanos, Alex Avila, Homer Bailey, PTBNL from Reds

Sign 3B Pablo Sandoval

Sign RHP Luke Gregerson

Sign LHP Francisco Liriano

Resign RHP Joba Chamberlain

Resign 1B/DH Victor Martinez

Tigers get: Low A prospects
White Sox get: Joe Nathan

Release IF Eugenio Suarez

Resign UT Don Kelly

Sign LHP Neal Cotts

2015 Lineup:
1. Ian Kinsler, 2B
2. Rajai Davis, CF
3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
4. Victor Martinez, DH
5. Jay Bruce, RF
6. JD Martinez, LF
7. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
8. James McCann, C
9. Jose Iglesias, SS

2015 Bench:
IF Andrew Romine
C Bryan Holaday
OF Andy Dirks
UT Don Kelly

2015 Rotation:
1. David Price, LHP
2. Justin Verlander, RHP
3. Francisco Liriano, LHP
4. Anibal Sanchez, RHP
5. Rick Porcello, RHP

2015 Bullpen:
LHP JP Howell
RHP Joba Chamberlain
RHP Al Alburquerque
LHP Neal Cotts
RHP Luke Gregerson
RHP Bruce Rondon

2015 Closer:
LHP Aroldis Chapman

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I like this for the Reds

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Sandavol will probably be hitting 5 or 6

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So everyone except the Tigers get sloppy seconds?

natedub

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Personic trade for the Reds

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Cut Eugenio Saurez Why??

Tigers Fan

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15 Oct 2014 01:30:22
Yankees offseason:

Sign RHP Max Scherzer

Resign RHP David Robertson

Sign LHP Andrew Miller

Sign RHP Luke Gregerson

Resign IF Chase Headley

Sign SS Jed Lowrie

Sign OF Jonny Gomes

Resign RHP Brandon McCarthy

Yankees get: Howie Kendrick
Angels get: Jose Pirela, Jose A. Ramirez, Zoilo Almonte

2015 Lineup:
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
2. Brett Gardner, LF
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Carlos Beltran, RF
5. Alex Rodriguez, DH
6. Brian McCann, C
7. Howie Kendrick, 2B
8. Chase Headley, 3B
9. Jed Lowrie, SS

2015 Bench:
C Francisco Cervelli
IF Brendan Ryan
OF Jonny Gomes
IF Rob Refsnyder

2015 Rotation:
1. Max Scherzer, RHP
2. Masahiro Tanaka, RHP
3. Brandon McCarthy, RHP
4. CC Sabathia, LHP
5. Shane Greene, RHP

2015 Bullpen:
RHP David Phelps
LHP Andrew Miller
RHP Adam Warren
LHP David Huff
RHP Luke Gregerson
RHP Dellin Betances

2015 Closer:
RHP David Robertson

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14 Oct 2014 20:28:54
Rockies get: SP James Paxton RP Brandon Mauer SS Chris Taylor Prospect DJ Peterson
Mariners get: SS Troy Tulowitzki

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Im a Mariner fan and if this trade did happen, it would be one of the worst trades ever

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^No. . . .

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I like this trade, but it will never happen. The Rockies steadfastly refuse to deal Tulo or Cargo, which means they will continue to suffer through tough times. It's not their fault, but they must trade one of these guys for multiple quality prospects if they ever want to compete again

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Why it could work for the Rox: Paxton, Mauer, and Chris Taylor are proven talents at the mlb level in their current roles, albeit with small sample size. Paxton could be a No. 2 starter, Mauer could set up a closer, and Chris Taylor plays above average defense and hits for average. If DJ Peterson keeps the power he has shown in the minors, it would be timely young power that could help future contending Colorado teams, as opposed to the power of Tulo, which lately has been wasted in lost causes.
why it could work for the M's: they are desperate for a RH cleanup hitter. If Tulo could play 120 games per year at short and 40 at DH, it might lessen his chance for injury. His elite defense would be a bonus in the games he does play at SS. Tulo and Cano could be a keystone combo for the ages. Mariner fans, remembering the Jeff Cirillo fiasco, will be skeptical of Coors Field offensive numbers until Tulo does it at Safeco.

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14 Oct 2014 19:36:18
Giants offseason:

-Sign Colby Rasmus
-Re-sign Jake Peavy
-Sign Alberto Callaspo or another platoon 3B option.

Giants 2015 Opening Day Roster
1B- Belt
2B- Panik
SS- Crawford
3B- Arias/Callaspo
C- Posey
LF- Rasmus
CF- Pagan
RF- Pence
SP- Bumgarner
SP- Peavy
SP- Cain
SP- Hudson
SP- Lincecum/Petit
SU- Affeldt
SU- Strickland
CP- Casilla

Giants have about $45M coming off the books after 2015, I'd imagine they'll make a big splash then.

natedub

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I'd be happier if we kept Panda but with what he wants. We need to look elsewhere. Not Callaspo or Arias in my opinion will get the job done.

Giants28

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Rasmus is not exactly what the Giants need. Rather, a guy who can slide into CF and perhaps bat leadoff in case Pagan's injury woes continue should be a higher priority.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Rasmus can slide into CF in a heartbeat. the only downside is he is not a leadoff hitter

JaysFan

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Hopefully Pagan will be healthy

Giants28

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As far as third base goes, I'd imagine Sabean doesn't want to spend more then 3/40 to 3/50 on a 3B. with that, I'm not sure there is a third baseman that would be worth our time who would take less than that. Panda won't re-sign for less than the Pence deal, and he'll get it elsewhere.

As for outfield, Rasmus is a California kid and likely will come for a much cheaper price than other options. You keep him in left, he can move over to CF, but the Giants also have Gregor Blanco as a back-up option.

As for lead-off options, there's just not a lot of great options out there.

natedub

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Wat about marco scutaro?

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Scutaro won't be getting much playing time. He's so much of a liability at this stage of his career.

Also, where would they start him? It's pretty evident that the second base position is going to Panik.

natedub

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14 Oct 2014 15:06:52
Mariners offseason moves
Sign victor Martinez 3 yrs. 42 million
sign nelson Cruz 5 yrs. 85 million
sign Giovanni Soto 1 yr 8 million
sign Andrew miller 2 yrs 20 million
Resign Chris young 1 yr 7 million
Lineup:
1. Austin Jackson CF
2. Dustin Ackley LF
3. Robinson Cano 2B
4. Nelson Cruz RF/ DH
5. Kyle Seager 3B
6. Victor Martinez DH/ C
7. Logan Morrison 1B
8. Mike Zunino C
9. Chris Taylor SS
bench:
Giovanni Soto C/DH
Michael Saunders RF
Brad Miller SS
James Jones CF
Willie Bloomquist SS/3B/2B/LF
Rotation:
1. Felix Hernandez
2. Hisashi Iwakuma
3. Roenis Elias/ Chris Young
4. James Paxton
5. Tiajuan Walker
bullpen:
Danny Farquar
Charlie Furbush
Brandon Maurer
Andrew Miller
Yoernis Medina
Tom Wilhelmsen
Joe Biemel
Fernando Rodney

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Cruz is a huge defensive liability. Mariners won't sign 2 DHs.

natedub

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V Mart is a distant possibility, but Nelson Cruz in Seattle? No chance.

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M's need a 5th starter. Roenis Elias is not ready for the big leagues yet, and sign a vetren starter just in case Tiajuan Walker is not ready just yet.

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^Elias is a fine fifth starter

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14 Oct 2014 02:28:18
Orioles offseason

Resigned P Wei-Yin Chen

OF/DH Nelson Cruz

C Nick Hundley INF kelly Johnson OF Nick Markakis

P Andrew Miller OF Delmon Young

Free Agent Signed by the Orioles

OF Norichika Aoki

INF Reid Brignac

LHP Sean Burnett

2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera

LHP Zach Duke

OF Jonny Gomes

RHP Luke Gregerson

RHP Brandon McCarthy

RHP Pat Neshek

Closer Huston Street who might replaced Zach Britton

oriolesfan41

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I was unaware the Orioles had this much money to dish out.

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Ha. Wow.

natedub

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"Just sign everyone!" Is not a proposal.

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Giants28

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More likely, the Orioles sign none of the above.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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14 Oct 2014 02:05:09
Yankees trade Gardner, Pineda to Reds for Cueto
Sign Alex Rios for LF 3yr $33M or Melkey Cabrera 4 yr/$60M

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If I was Cincy I would trade Cueto, Phillips and Chapman. Should be able to get 4 high prospect, and 2 mid prospects. Then they could resign Latos, Leake.

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They have enough outfielders. Plus Rios is just another aging player they need to stay away from. I don't trust Melky. I'm sure that the Reds would want prospects for Cueto.

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Cueto may be a FA. $10M option or $800K buyout. The Yankees may not even need to trade to get him.

natedub

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Melky is staying in T. O

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13 Oct 2014 12:05:14
3 way trade between mariners, marlins and angels:
angels get: tiajuan walker, d. j Peterson, Justin smoak and Jose Fernandez
marlins get: James Paxton, brad miller, Michael Saunders, Tyler pike, Howie Kendrick
mariners get: mike trout and Giancarlo Stanton

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Crazed Mariners fan.

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Very likely trade will most likely happen in the near future. But I can't believe the mariners would give up all that talent just for less than average players like bitch ass trout and Stanton

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This trade is not ever likely to happen.

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Trade accepted. Now let me just turn off the show.

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Let's get serious. Gardner and Pineda not even close to equal value for Cueto!

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13 Oct 2014 11:57:34
Seattle mariners offseason:
sign nelson Cruz 5yrs 80 million
sign nick markakis 3 yrs 35 million
sign jon Lester 6 yrs 125 million
resign Joe biemel 1 yr 5 million
resign kendrys Morales 1 yr 7 million
resign Chris young 1yr 5 million

Lineup:
1. Austin Jackson CF
2. Dustin Ackley LF
3. Robinson Cano 2B
4. Nelson Cruz DH
5. Kyle Seager 3B
6. Nick Markakis RF
7. Logan Morrison 1B
8. Mike Zunino C
9. Chris Taylor SS
Bench:
Kendrys Morales 1B/ DH
Michael Saunders RF
James Jomes CF
Jesus Seuce C
Brad miller SS
Rotation:
1. Felix Hernandez
2. Jon Lester
3. Hisashi iwakuma
4. James Paxton / tiajuan walker
5.

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This won't happen. They won't sign Cruz because he is linked to steroids, that's why they didn't sign him last off season. Markakis will be back with Baltimore. Lester will probably sign with the Yankees or Cubs. Morales will probably get more.

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You're talking a $50M increase in payroll. The Mariners are certainly going to spend some, but I doubt they give all of those contracts out. Especially when you consider that Walker and Paxton aren't going to get cheaper, the Mariners won't spend that money.

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12 Oct 2014 19:44:41
Tigers offseason:

Resign 1B/DH Victor Martinez

Sign LHP Andrew Miller

Sign RHP Justin Masterson

Tigers get: Yasiel Puig
Dodgers get: Nick Castellanos, Justin Miller, Alex Avila, Jonathan Crawford, Cash

Sign C Russell Martin

Sign IF Pablo Sandoval

Sign OF Colby Rasmus

Tigers get: Jonathan Papelbon
Phillies get: Joe Nathan, Devon Travis, Andy Dirks,

Resign RHP Jim Johnson

Resign UT Don Kelly

2015 Lineup:
1. Colby Rasmus, CF
2. Ian Kinsler, 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
4. Victor Martinez, DH
5. Yasiel Puig, RF
6. JD Martinez, LF
7. Russell Martin, C
8. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
9. Jose Iglesias, SS

2015 Bench:
UT Don Kelly
C Bryan Holaday
IF Andrew Romine
OF Rajai Davis

2015 Rotation:
1. David Price, LHP
2. Justin Verlander, RHP
3. Justin Masterson, RHP
4. Anibal Sanchez, RHP
5. Rick Porcello, RHP

2015 Bullpen:
LHP Andrew Miller
RHP Jim Johnson
LHP Blaine Hardy
RHP Al Alburquerque
RHP Joakim Soria
RHP Bruce Rondon

2015 Closer:
RHP Jonathan Papelbon

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LOL Dodgers would never do that

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Tigers won't trade Castellanos even up or Puig

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As a tigers fan I love this but forget the Puig trade. Puig has all sorts of problems. I love the idea of Rasmus. But instead put Pablo at third and put Castellanos back in the outfiels

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You will not win with Colby as your leadoff hitter

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12 Oct 2014 13:09:08
Tigers offseason:

Resign 1B/DH Victor Martinez

Sign LHP Andrew Miller

Sign RHP Justin Masterson

Tigers get: Yasiel Puig
Dodgers get: Nick Castellanos, Justin Miller, Alex Avila, Jonathan Crawford, Cash

Sign C Russell Martin

Sign IF Pablo Sandoval

Sign OF Colby Rasmus

Tigers get: Jonathan Papelbon
Phillies get: Joe Nathan, Devon Travis, Andy Dirks,

Resign RHP Jim Johnson

Resign UT Don Kelly

2015 Lineup:
1. Colby Rasmus, CF
2. Ian Kinsler, 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
4. Victor Martinez, DH
5. Yasiel Puig, RF
6. JD Martinez, LF
7. Russell Martin, C
8. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
9. Jose Iglesias, SS

2015 Bench:
UT Don Kelly
C Bryan Holaday
IF Andrew Romine
OF Tyler Collins

2015 Rotation:
1. David Price, LHP
2. Justin Verlander, RHP
3. Justin Masterson, RHP
4. Anibal Sanchez, RHP
5. Rick Porcello, RHP

2015 Bullpen:
LHP Andrew Miller
RHP Jim Johnson
LHP Blaine Hardy
RHP Al Alburquerque
RHP Joakim Soria
RHP Bruce Rondon

2015 Closer:
RHP Jonathan Papelbon

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Martinez could happen, but they will have a lot of competition for him. Miller same thing. I don't think the Dodgers will trade Puig. Maybe Kemp, Eithier, or Crawford. Sandoval won't happen, as they will be competing with Boston and maybe New York for him. You give up way to much for Papelbon. How about Nathan for Papelbon straight up. Struggling closer for struggling closer.

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Both Sanchez and porcello are better than masterson

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Okay, so the Tigers are going to sign Rasmus, V Mart, Miller, Panda, Russell Martin, and Masterson, and trade for Paps and Puig?

Let's just say you're being a bit over-optimistic.

LongtimeBaseballFan

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Out of all of the things you put in this post, only re-signing Victor Martinez is likely and/or makes sense.

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Why are all Tigers proposals seemingly along the line of "just but everybody"? This isn't a video game guys! You can't just go out and get every player who interests you.

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Ummm, Papelbon is a jerk, I get it, but he is is no way struggling. He's pitching really well, #'s compared to Nathan aren't even close. Phils will pay a bunch of his salary, but there's going to have to be a decent player or two in exchange for him. He's lost some velocity, but showed that pitching is more effective than just throwing heat.

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I think sign Victor & make areal run at both Andrew Miller & Colby Rasmus but none of the other makes a lot of sence

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