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31 May 2016 03:02:52
Dodgers Get:
OF Adam Duvall

Reds Get:
OF Alex Verdugo
IF/ OF Enrique Hernandez.

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31 May 2016 17:13:04
No way could the Reds get Kike Hernandez for Adam Duvall.

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31 May 2016 17:19:22
What purpose does it serve for either side?

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30 May 2016 17:54:22
Braves Deadline Rebuild:

Trade #1

Rangers get: Nick Markakis, Kelly Johnson
Braves get: Jurickson Profar, Hanser Alberto, Ryan Rua, Andy Ibanez

Trade #2

Indians Get: AJ Pierzynski
Braves Get: Yan Gomes (28 Years Old)

Trade #3

Blue Jays Get: Adonis Garcia
Braves Get: Jimmy Paredes

Trade #4

Cubs Get: Gordon Beckham, Alexi Ogando
Braves Get: Ian Happ
CHC send RHP Justin Grimm to Triple-A

Trade #5

Mariners Get: Erick Aybar
Braves Get: D. J. Peterson

Trade #6

Diamondbacks Get: Jason Grilli
Braves Get: Silvino Bracho/ Jake Barrett.

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30 May 2016 18:22:18
Pierzynski for Gomes has to be one of the worst trades I've seen on here.

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30 May 2016 18:26:56
The braves are already in rebuild mode and these wouldn't be the first trades. And all these trades are pretty awful and stink.

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30 May 2016 21:38:32
Jimmy Paredes was DFAd.

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31 May 2016 02:34:12
Not with TOR.

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31 May 2016 02:48:03
Gomes + prospects for lucroy
Gomes + prospects for writers

Is better then Gomes for pierzynski.

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31 May 2016 03:01:36
Yes with Toronto. I get the feeling you don't understand trade value either. Poetry ski for Yan Gomes is absolutely laughable.

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31 May 2016 03:49:40
Cleveland adds Lindor and Kluber.

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30 May 2016 16:56:23

Padres Aquire: Carson Fulmer, Spencer Adams, Matt Davidson, Chris Beck, Jhoandro Alfaro

White Sox Aquire: James Shields, Ryan Butcher

CWS option LHP Matt Purke and RHP Miguel Gonzalez to Triple-A

The White Sox are now in the hunt for James Shields. Since the bullpen has struggled down the sttrech for the Sox, I put in an arm that could help them. Thoughts?

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30 May 2016 18:22:46
White Sox aren't giving up Fulmer for Shields.

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30 May 2016 21:39:41
This is pretty bad.

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31 May 2016 15:51:39
The sox will not trade Fulmer for a struggling Shields at this point in the season.

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31 May 2016 19:28:49
Shields is not necessarily struggling as much as his team is. He isn't getting any run support. He has only a 3.09 era but his team has only scored 2 or less runs in all but 2 of his starts.

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30 May 2016 08:42:05
Royals: Aroldis Chapman, Carlos Beltran, Chase Hadley

Yankees: Raul Mondesi Jr, Jerrod Dyson, ashe russel, nolan watson.

Yankees get rid of Chapman and get get a haul of prospects.

Royals get a better bullpen arm and 2 replacements for all their injuries. Chain is a rental but stI'll a good trade.

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30 May 2016 14:59:50
Yanks arn't trading Chapman.

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30 May 2016 16:12:14
Idk, if they get can get some good prospects in return I think they would.

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30 May 2016 16:50:23
I see them dealing Miller not Chapman.

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30 May 2016 16:52:13
Why on earth would the Royals trade away their future for a guy who was suspended for DV and a slumping 3rd baseman. The only person I see them going after here is Beltran. I see him being a good fit with all the outfield issues they have been having this year. I don't think it would take too much to get him given he is a FA (I think) at the end of the year and his age as well. But I see the Royals looking for some form of outfield depth outside of the orginization pretty soon.

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30 May 2016 16:55:19
Why not trade Chapman het some more youth and if you want Chapman which they don't need just sign him in off season.

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31 May 2016 03:02:06
The Yankees could very possibly move Chapman.

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29 May 2016 22:04:00
I heard that the Brewers would trade Ryan Braun and Jonathan lucroy to the red Sox for blake swihart Pablo Sandoval and Rusney Castillo plus Andrew Benitendi.

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29 May 2016 23:18:45
Not happening, The Red Sox don't need Luccroy they are set with Vasquez and Hanigen and when he is gone Swihart, and Braun is a head case, he lied about PEDs and thought that he could get away with it by saying it was someone else's fault that the test came back positive even though he was taking PEDs, and the Sox shouldn't give up on Swihart and Castillo that easlily and we are not trading Benitendie. Plus Lucroy would just be a rental. And I would just give them Sandaval for free or for someone like Chicinie, who played well for the Sox in past years.

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30 May 2016 01:50:19
So what your saying is, two of the best players at their respective positions for, a catcher hitting .200, an out of shape downright awful player (not to mention his contract), an outfielder who has never been good, and an elite prospect that the redsox said they weren't moving? Sorry, you must have heard wrong.

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30 May 2016 05:36:10
You must have heard this from yourself. or crazysull.

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30 May 2016 05:48:32
All I am saying is I don't want to give up Swihart who will be platooning at catcher either next season or the year after that depending on when Hanigen leaves, and Castillo who still has time to turn it around and especially Benitendie for a guy like Braun who is a head case and a rental catcher, I am sorry if you feel differently but I feel like the only player in this trade that the sox are trying to move is Sandaval.

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30 May 2016 14:59:27
Sandoval is done for the year. Why would the Brewers do this?

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30 May 2016 16:16:29
I doubt there is any truth to this. There is no way the Brewers would accept Sandoval and Castillo in a trade for Braun and Lucroy. and sull why are so infatuated with Swihart.

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30 May 2016 16:49:18
I am not but I am just saying that it is too early to give up on him like most have.

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29 May 2016 03:49:50
Oak Gets:
Yordano Ventura
(25.0 y/ o 138 in SP Power Rankings)

KC Gets:
Sonny Gray
(26.6 y/ o 158 in SP Power Rankings)

Sonny Gray is on the DL as of right now and obviously is not trade eligible. But this trade is assuming he is eligible due to some miraculous recovery or a sudden rule change.

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29 May 2016 05:06:17
You can trade players on the DL.

Recent example: Bronson Arroyo last year.

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29 May 2016 01:41:15
Before everyone bashes me, I fully understand that Mike Trout is not going to get traded. However, in a Sports Illustrated article, 10 teams were listed as possible destinations for him that have the farm system to pull off a deal if he were to be shopped. The most likely destination for him in that article was the Yankees due to him being from New Jersey and Billy Eppler being the former Assistant GM of the Yankees and the current GM of the Angels. So here's the trade.

Angels get Luis Severino, Aaron Judge, Jorge Mateo, Gary Sanchez, Rob Refsnyder, James Kaprielian, Domingo Acevedo, and Ian Clarkin

Yankees get Mike Trout

Once again I want everyone to know that I am completely aware that Mike Trout will not be traded. But is this package fair value?

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29 May 2016 03:32:45
This is the first realistic trade I could foresee for Trout. And I agree with you, I don't think the LAA will trade Trout. That being said, if they wanted to I think they would accept this deal.

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29 May 2016 05:07:47
I don't think the Yankees farm system is all that great. In my opinion, it's not good enough to land Trout.

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29 May 2016 05:15:05
I actually think Harper will be s Yankee before Trout.

They can do this trade as it's more realistic then the others out there

But imagine, they do this and in 2018 they'd sign Harper. they yankees can manage it as mist if the current big contracts Will be off the books by 2018 (Harper and Trout could combine to make $75 million a year. a figure the yankees could do)

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30 May 2016 03:57:25
The problem with this I would be that the Yankees essentially just became the Angels. No farm system if all of them are traded and an old team around Trout. If I'm the Yankees, I would say no. (That said, I still think Trout could net a little more but Severino headlining this package makes it more attractive than just the hitters) .

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30 May 2016 16:54:23
Even if they traded Trout no team could pull off the move. No matter what the Angels win the trade and get all of your best prospects. It would be incredibly stupid because even though you're acquiring Trout you won't have high end players developing to support him. Whoever "trades" for him becomes LA Angels 2.0.

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29 May 2016 01:29:57
Trade Between SEA, LAD

Seattle gets

Yasiel Puig (Full Salary)
Howie Kendrick (Dodgers pay 1/ 2 of his salary)

Dodgers get

Tony Zych
Seth Smith

Why it makes sense for the Mariners: They are a left handed heavy lineup. Their OF needs a balance of both lefties and righties and both Puig and Kendrick can help balance it.

Why it makes sense for the Dodgers: They are able to let go of Puig, who seems to have issues with the Dodgers. In the process of letting go of Puig, they are also able to dump Kendrick's hefty contract. In the process they pickup a underrated relief pitcher whos had sucess so far in the big leagues.

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29 May 2016 03:35:57
I think the Dodgers says 'Thanks, but no thanks' on this one. IMHO Puig > Zych + Smith.

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29 May 2016 05:09:00
Good grief is this awful. Seth Smith is 33 and Tony Zych is a middle reliever. I think Puig is ridiculously overrated, but he'll bring in a much better package.

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29 May 2016 05:30:42
Ok pink, I think you have officially posted your worst and most absurd trade proposal ever. This is just awful.

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27 May 2016 21:05:19
BOS Gets:
Josh Reddick

OAK Gets:
Blake Swihart.

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27 May 2016 22:22:53
Reddick is hurt and the A's have Stephen Vogt who they aren't trading.

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28 May 2016 01:49:22
And the Red Sox aren't trading Swihart or at least not for that.

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31 May 2016 20:54:07
The Sox won't trade Swihart for Reddick if they won't trade Swihart for Hamels. Also, the A's want more prospects based on the way Reddick is playing. Lastly, on the positive side, I see what you're saying. The Sox could use another outfielder to go along with Bradley and Betts. If they make the trade without Swihart, maybe they move Hanigan and move Swihart back to catcher.

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27 May 2016 14:22:52
Texas: Jonathan Lucroy and Carlos Torres

Milwaukee: Lewis Brinson, Ariel Jurado, Connor Sadzeck and Shawn Tolleson.

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28 May 2016 00:30:18
Start with Joey Gallo and Andrew Faulkner. Then 2 out of 3 from Ryan Cordell, Yohander Mendez, or Jose Trevino. That will keep David Stearns from hanging up and talking to Tampa Bay.

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27 May 2016 02:47:10
Twins get: Cesar Hernandez, Jeremy Hellickson, Freddy Galvis, Darin Ruf

Phillies get: Brian Dozier, Glen Perkins.

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27 May 2016 22:28:39
I would love this for Minnesota, but I think Philly gets hosed. No one knows when Perkins will be healthy again and Dozier is playing really bad right now.

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30 May 2016 15:00:57
Not enough to Minnesota.

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27 May 2016 02:42:33
In the AL Central, Moose's season-ending injury further solidifies the White Sox as the AL Central Champions. I think that Jonathan Lucroy would be a perfect fit for the White Sox.

White Sox would send Carson Fulmer, Spencer Adams, Brian Clark, and Al Avila to Milwaukee

Brewers send Lucroy to the White Sox.

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27 May 2016 02:55:59
Assuming you mean Alex Avila not Al, still not enough for Lucroy. Catching is so so scarce that teams will need to overpay for a top 5 catcher like Lucroy.

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27 May 2016 04:20:01
Al Avila is the gm of the tigers.

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27 May 2016 12:21:12
Nothing, especially the losing three of four to the Indians CWSox, is solidified in the AL Central. Any one of four teams can win that division.

Lucroy would be a big improvement over the current backstops for the CWSox. The package presented is pretty good. The Brewers will be doing a silent auction to see if they can improve on an offer similar to what you've suggested.

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27 May 2016 14:20:51
I disagree. ^ I think the Brewers will want and get more for a premium catcher like Lucroy.

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28 May 2016 00:46:47
Fulmer, Adams, and Clark are a good start. Add 2 out of 3 from Jhoandro Alfaro, Johan Cruz, or Amado Nunez. Brewers throw in a low level bullpen arm. Keep Alex Avila.

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27 May 2016 01:58:16
Yankees get: Freddie Freeman

Braves get: Ian Clarkin, Tyler Wade.

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27 May 2016 02:31:16
You're a funny guy. ATL would want at least one of Jorge Mateo or Aaron Judge. Not an Ian Clarkin or a Tyler Wide.

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27 May 2016 02:33:37
Way too little.

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27 May 2016 03:16:42
1, not enough for Freeman. 2, what purpose would this serve they have Greg Bird coming back next year.

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27 May 2016 20:58:59
^^^They could move Bird to DH and use Freeman at 1st, or vise versa. But I agree, this is no where near enough for Freeman.

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30 May 2016 15:03:47
Not only is this not enough for Freeman, the Yankees aren't going to give up prospects at this time of year, even if they are getting Freeman (who is still only 26 years old)

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26 May 2016 07:06:49
Cubs get: Marcell Ozuna, Jose Fernandez

Marlins get: Addison Russell, Jorge Soler, Gleyber Torres.

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26 May 2016 07:14:58
Guys, just about what I said, the Cubs are good enough, but if you are a basketball fan, you would know that 73 regular season wins isn't good enough. The Cubs have to be stacked for the playoffs, and Russell, Soler, and Torres won't help that cause to the degree that Fernandez and Ozuna would.

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26 May 2016 08:55:27
If you're a baseball fan though, you'd know that the value here is not even remotely close.

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26 May 2016 12:30:50
I know Fernandez is an ace, and young, but if I'm the Cubs management, I don't give up this package for him. Is it fair? Yes.

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26 May 2016 14:14:25
Not even close to happening. This is horrible.

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26 May 2016 14:22:59
Not even remotely close for the Cubs to land Fernandez and Osuna.

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26 May 2016 14:43:07
So do you remember in the offseason when teams were attempting to get the Marlins to trade Fernandez? They said each teams top 5 prospects to start and more. That pitiful offer you suggested wouldn't even get the Cubs in the conversation. Plus with Ozuna in the trade Bryant and Schwarber would have to be in this trade.

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26 May 2016 22:19:20
Batman. The Cubs would never do that Bryant is way too important to them. They already have an ace in Arrieta and Lester is great too. They need Bryant more than Fernandez.

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27 May 2016 00:14:50
Whether or not they do it is moot.

The price to acquire Fernandez is going to be very, very steep.

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27 May 2016 00:57:04
Exactly so that should tell you one thing this trade ain't happening.

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26 May 2016 02:48:20
Toronto and Milwaukee

Toronto trades Drew Storen and Matt Dominguez

Milwaukee trades Chris Carter.

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26 May 2016 06:25:24
Why do the Brewers do this.

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26 May 2016 12:31:20
I think the Brew Crew can get more for Carter right now.

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26 May 2016 14:14:56
TOR Doesn't need Carter.

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26 May 2016 15:14:10
Chris Carter is worlds better than Justin Smoak. So yes, Toronto could use Chris Carter.

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26 May 2016 17:53:59
Smoak is slashing .278/ .391/ .417 with an .807 OPS right now.

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26 May 2016 19:53:26
^thats just a small sample size. It proves he's doing ok right now, but where will he be in a month or two and at the end of the season.

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27 May 2016 00:18:15
You're talking about a guy who has been barely above replacement level his entire career.

Carter isn't that great, but he's far better than Smoak. The Blue Jays would be morons if they don't see Carter as an upgrade.

But based on what they spent for mediocre pitching, I'm not so sure they aren't.

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27 May 2016 13:42:33
Id take Smoak over Carter anyday of the week. Carter has crazy power but strikes out way to much. that's too much of what the blue jays have right now. Smoak is getting on base at a high rate, has been steadily producing after getting the starting job, and plays good defense.

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27 May 2016 14:53:04
The fact that people are arguing over Smoak and Carter is hilarious and sad since both aren't that great. The are possibly better first baseman that are available out there.

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27 May 2016 15:35:29
You Blue Jays fans make me laugh.

Smoak strikes out a lot as well, 28% of the time, in fact. He's got the second worst K rate on the Blue Jays right now.

He's also a negative DRS defender, so saying he plays good defense is a joke.

In short, if I'm going for a 1B that strikes out a bunch and plays poor defense, I'm going with the guy that at least has has some power, which Chris Carter leads all 1B in.

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27 May 2016 15:36:25
And Batman, that there are people who think Justin Smoak is a good 1B is laughable.

Maybe I forgot to convert the stats into Canadian metrics?

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27 May 2016 17:50:46
Justin smoaks ops+ this year 122
Last year 107
Chris carters ops+ this year 124
Last year 102

Chris Carter k% 39% this year
Carters had 212 ks in 2012
Had 151 in 391 abs last year

Justin smoak 34%
Justin smoak after becoming the starting 1st basemen 24%
86 ks in 328 abs

In 1012 chances he has 4 errors in the last 2 years .996 fielding percentage
Has 1 drs in the last 2 years

Has made 11 errors in 1386 chances .992 fielding percentage
-5 drs in the past 2 years

Justin Smoak has 19 walks this year works out to a .386 OBP

Chris Carter has 15 walks and a .297 OBP

Chris Carter has 37 homeruns in the past 2 years with 556 abs

Justin Smoak has 21 homeruns in 450
Has more then 100 less Abs the Carter but still has put up 21 homeruns not to mention a .252 batting average over the last 2 years while Carter has .221. Saying that Chris Carter is "worlds" better then Justin Smoak is purely nonsense.

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27 May 2016 18:16:40
zammer you don't get it. Your suggesting a sample size of this season is comparable to an entire season. Anyone who plays for the Blue Jays has inflated offensive numbers. You thinking Carter is a suitable upgrade for Smoak is hilarious.

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27 May 2016 18:44:59
No i am saying that he isn't a good replacement for smoam because i clearly show that Smoak has been better both offensively and defensively.

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27 May 2016 18:45:40
Also with almost all of my numbers i looked over the last 2 years.

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27 May 2016 20:34:01
Three seasons worth of stats:

Carter- .337
Smoak- .314

Carter- 114
Smoak- 99

Carter- 2.8
Smoak- 0.8

Carter- .259
Smoak- .184

Defensive metrics:
Carter- -3
Smoak- -3

Carter- -1.3
Smoak- 2.8

So you got me on defense, he's better than Carter (although saying he's "good" defensively is still a monstrous joke) .

As far as offensive numbers, he is no where near Carter in any offensive metric. Nowhere close. All of those numbers are independent of plate appearance totals, so the difference between PAs is moot.

Carter is the significantly better first baseman. It's not even a remotely close argument.

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27 May 2016 20:40:41
In case you aren't convinced, more advanced stats:

WPA (win probability added, context neutral) :
Carter- 1.00
Smoak- -1.51

RE24 (run expectancy, context dependent) :
Carter- 18.59
Smoak- -1.79

WPA/ LI (win probability added, considering leverage index) :
Carter- 2.17
Smoak- 0.95

Again, this is over the span of three years. Carter is worlds better.

If you still aren't convinced, you're definitely a Blue Jays fan.

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27 May 2016 20:54:26
That last WPA/ LI number for Smoak is wrong. It's NEGATIVE 0.95, not positive. Meaning he's costing his team runs in high leverage moments, not adding runs.

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27 May 2016 23:12:34
You went three years back because that is when Carter had a career year. Over the course of last year and so far this year Smoak has been a better firstbasmen. I think neither of them are the same player they were 3 years ago, and they are both trending in opposite directions.

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28 May 2016 01:03:18
No, I went back through 2014 because it gave me 2 full seasons + a quarter (this one), which is a better gauge for who the better player is.

You're also looking at Smoak with a .394 BABIP, which will not, under any circumstance, continue this season. He's literally batting 130 points higher than his career BABIP, which elevates his numbers early on.

This is why you can't use small sample numbers to make your case. Smoak has as many PAs through last year as Carter all last year (exact amount, actually) . That .394 BABIP is unsustainable and really lifting his numbers.

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28 May 2016 01:57:55
Okay i'm gunna hold you to it. At the end of the season we will compare numbers and see who is better.

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28 May 2016 07:04:18
If Smoak maintains a .394 BABIP or anything remotely close to it, I'll eat my hand.

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29 May 2016 05:33:06
I predict you will not have to eat your hand. In the end we will all forget about this ridiculous conversation.

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26 May 2016 00:24:02
TOR: P Pierce Johnson, P Oscar De La Cruz

CHC: RP Drew Storen.

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26 May 2016 14:15:08
Not Happening.

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26 May 2016 00:00:27
Brewers receive: Dominic Smith and Brandon Nimmo
Mets receive: Jonathan Lucroy.

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26 May 2016 04:10:36
Mets can trade d'Arnuad +
for Lucroy.

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26 May 2016 14:15:27
MIL Wants More.

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25 May 2016 22:08:29
A's trade Rich Hill
Red Sox trade Henry Owens and Trey Ball.

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26 May 2016 01:01:36
Too much.

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26 May 2016 06:21:49
It's tough to judge his value because he has been unreal this year but mediocre over his whole career.

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26 May 2016 14:24:09
No one is giving up that much for Rich Hill.

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25 May 2016 17:08:04
Blue Jays trade
Dan Jansen
Mitch Nay
Romeon Fields

Padres trade
Fernando Rodney
Ryan Bucher.

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25 May 2016 18:58:36
What effect does this have on either team?

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26 May 2016 00:02:09
Jays get some key bullpen pieces

Padres get some prospects to help with the rebuild and sell high on Rodney

If this were to happen it would more near the deadline.

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25 May 2016 16:44:37
Atlanta trades: Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino, and Nick Markakis and his remaining salary for this year.

Dodgers trade: Joc Pederson, Jose De Leon and Alex Guerrero

Atlanta gets a front runner pitcher to replaceTeheran who is more valuable to the Dodgers immediately. Markakis replaces RF and they move Puig back to CF. The Dodgers further bolster the bullpen and dump some salary in Guerrero. I could also see Puig being swapped out for Pederson as he is being payed much more than Pederson and Pederson is the better defender. Braves get power that they desperately need from either player.

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25 May 2016 19:00:28
Why does everyone think Teheran is getting traded? He's only 25. They're not trading him.

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25 May 2016 19:05:48
Dodgers already have plenty rotation options. They also have plenty of outfield options. This trade makes little sense and doesn't seem well thought out.

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25 May 2016 21:20:21
There is far more value for Atlanta if they trade Teheran versus if they keep him.

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26 May 2016 04:58:07
Also the Dodgers aren't trading Peterson.

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