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24 Apr 2017 20:42:27
If Jays continue to struggle, here are ideas for a rebuild:

Giants get: Josh Donaldson
Blue Jays get: Christian Arroyo, Ty Blach, Conor Gillespie, Andrew Suarez


Tigers get: Jason Grilli
Blue Jays get: Myles Jaye


Mariners get: Justin Smoak
Blue Jays get: Boog Powell


Pirates get: Troy Tulowitzki
Blue Jays get: Taylor Hearn, Jose Osuna, Drew Hutchison


Indians get: Jose Bautista
Blue Jays get: Yandy Diaz, Shawn Armstrong, Erik Gonzalez

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25 Apr 2017 00:04:59
Some are better than others, but none is absolutely terrible. The Jays will give their guys a chance to get healthy, but they better get their rubbish together by mid June.

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25 Apr 2017 03:01:39
1. Donaldson would command way more than that. And then the Giants wouldn't be willing. They view Arroyo and others as integral parts of their future.

2. Boog Powell is WAY more valuable serving a suspension than Smoak is playing. Smoak is garbage.

3. The Pirates would turn that down. They can't afford Tulo.

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23 Apr 2017 23:01:25
Jays are starting rebuild early because of start

Donaldson.J
for
Perez.D, Weaver.L, Gonzales.M

Tulo($5mil reatained for 2 years)
for
Osuna.J, Hearn.T

Smoak.J
for
Low Prospect

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24 Apr 2017 02:39:06
Dude, I wish you would give first names, positions and teams. It's hard to figure out what you're doing - like solving a puzzle.

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24 Apr 2017 05:09:57
some blue jays fans are hilarious, on the bandwagon one minute, then a bad start to a season, and they are off the bandwagon the next minute.

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24 Apr 2017 16:21:32
Well, if it helps, that tulo trade is Taylor hearn and Jose osuna from the pirates, which as a pirate's fan, I don't see that ever happening.

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22 Apr 2017 20:41:29
To Toronto: Lorenzo Cain

To KC: Happ, Tellez

2 expiring contracts for each other's areas of need. Cain is better than happ, so tellez evens the trade

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23 Apr 2017 06:06:01
Happ, as in JA Happ, he's injured at the moment, and correct me if i'm wrong but that injury he has is usually a precursor for TJ surgery.

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23 Apr 2017 13:05:58
Why would jays do this?

Cain is a good player but he's a free agent after this year. Tellez will be the Jays future first baseman in almost everybody's eyes.

It looks like the Jays run is over so expect some trades for younger pieces this year not free agents.

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23 Apr 2017 17:02:23
The Jays are in win-now mode. They'll get Tulo, Donaldson and others back from the DL, then look to make a run.

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23 Apr 2017 17:36:31
Its also the first month of the season, so there is no reason to panic and run for the hills thinking the end is near for the blue jays.

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23 Apr 2017 19:33:20
I'm not sure it will get better. That team is incredibly poorly put together and has absolutely no depth. They built everything on players playing at the highest percentile last season.

If I'm Toronto, I start selling pieces by early June.

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24 Apr 2017 16:24:08
Since no one else pointed it out, Happ is not on an expiring contract. He's signed through 2018.

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16 Apr 2017 14:53:15
Tulo, Maese
for
Chaffin, Brito

Smoak
for
Orimoloye

Call Up
Tellez-1B

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16 Apr 2017 19:00:59
Tellez has played 8 games above the AA. He won't be on that roster any time soon.

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16 Apr 2017 19:01:26
Also, have you seen the D'Backs roster? They have 5 SS on their 40-man roster. They don't need Tulo.

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23 Apr 2017 13:08:36
Nobody wants Tulo's contract. Still one of the best defensive shortstops in baseball and a true team leader but the Jays would have to eat much of his salary to unload him.

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31 Mar 2017 13:49:49
Yankees trade Greg Bird Tyler Austin Aaron Judge and Gary Sanchez

Angels trade Mike Trout.

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31 Mar 2017 23:23:33
Not. Even. Close.

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31 Mar 2017 23:24:35
The reason I say that is because the Angels need pitching. I don't think any of these guys other than Sanchez really blow up anyone's skirt.

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01 Apr 2017 05:37:32
The Angels need a lot, they have don't have a good farm system at all.

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01 Apr 2017 16:54:31
It's a start, but many prospects need to be included as well, including pitching.

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01 Apr 2017 18:18:22
It would cost them both their young shortstops as well.

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02 Apr 2017 01:31:08
Not both, but one.

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08 Apr 2017 17:28:25
Sanchez, Glyber, Rutherford, Sheffield and maybe a lottery ticket like freicer perez?

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08 Apr 2017 19:36:39
Stop trying to trade for Mike Trout.

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09 Apr 2017 03:42:57
I mean the conversation is purely hypothetical. Best farm system in baseball and the best player in baseball. I don't think anyone is saying its likely to happen.

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09 Apr 2017 22:18:21
I think it is more realistic than some might think. Likely? No. But within the realm of possibility.

The Angels have Trout under contract for 2018-20 at just over $34 million per season. They are also hamstrung with Pujols' contract. Trading Trout - or possibly persuading a team such as the Yankees to take on both contracts - would free up a lot of cash.

The Yankees have a great farm system right now, so they have the guys to pull it off. Names such as Frazier and Torres and Mateo would get the Angels' attention.

Too, the Yankees are the premier franchise in MLB. They love to have perhaps the best player too, for both competition and marketing. Think Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Berra, Mantle, and Jeter. Remember the buzz always going on with guys such as Reggie Jackson, Dave Winfield and Alex Rodriguez when they were brought aboard? Think about how big a splash it would make if Trout, a New Jersey kid, were to come to the Bronx.

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10 Apr 2017 03:06:13
@Longtime. Agreed that its a good match for sure but like you said, just don't think its likely.

Also @erichosmerfan, I sat next to his best at one of his first games (against the chisox) couldn't have been nicer guys. Love to root for that guy.

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10 Apr 2017 16:33:58
I understand the benefit to trading Trout, I don't see the reward in trading FOR him.

It's going to cost 1-2 elite young guys off the 40-man roster plus another 2-3 top prospects.

Trout is the best player, by far, in the game. But is adding him and creating huge holes in your lineup worth it? I vote no.

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11 Apr 2017 00:03:49
The marketing alone for a team such as the Yankees would make it plausible.

Too, you have to remember that the Yankees have the farm system to give up in exchange. then a big pocketbook to sign guys to fill in the gap.

The Angels are not going to be good this year. So, if they want a rebuild, or reboot, then they could deal Trout, save payroll, and bring in several young guys. Think a package of Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Justus Sheffield, Chance Adams and Dellin Betances wouldn't get the Angels thinking about it?

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11 Apr 2017 03:45:40
One, mo, the Angels wouldn't accept that package for Trout. It would start with Sanchez + Bird, and then most of those guys.

Two, I never stated they wouldn't benefit from pulling the trigger. They would. Others wouldn't.

The Yankees would have to fill 3-5 pretty massive gaps in their organization. They do this while adding $25M on their payroll, so they'd have to add free agent talent and pay the luxury tax, or play with a sub-stellar roster behind Trout.

The question is, which is better: their lineup without Trout, or their lineup with Trout, but without Sanchez, Bird, Betances and others?

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15 Apr 2017 02:59:07
I think the Angels need players around Trout to provide offensive but to trade someone like Albert trade him for some prospects that they can use to build around Trout.

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15 Apr 2017 05:34:02
I don't think this late Pujols's career he will bring top prospects, or at least multiple ones. They can't get anyone around Trout, they need/ should begin to rebuild and they should trade Trout.

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28 Mar 2017 02:02:56
an exposfan special...

NY trades 1B Greg Bird to Arizona

Diamondbacks send 3B Jake Lamb to LA

Angels ship CF Mike Trout to Yankees

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28 Mar 2017 23:01:13
Would have been funnier if you sent Mike Trout to Korea or something. Try again.

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30 Mar 2017 23:15:19
There is nothing believable about that trade.

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28 Mar 2017 01:58:38
saw exposfan's post, and this is better

A's trade OF Khris Davis to Baltimore

Orioles send 1B Chris Davis to Oakland

Dudes can just switch jerseys

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28 Mar 2017 14:09:14
This is just unnecessary.

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28 Mar 2017 22:59:54
Kevin Hart and Louie CK try to switch comedy shows. "They'll never know! "

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16 Mar 2017 20:15:40
Came up with a numb trade the other day:

Pirates trade Ivan Nova.
Royals trade Lorenzo Cain.

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16 Mar 2017 20:36:04
Royals get screwed.

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17 Mar 2017 00:48:06
When you post something like that, you know what you're going to get.

You must love verbal abuse. You were probably the kid that made a "kick me" sign, then stuck it on your own back.

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17 Mar 2017 01:33:51
But do you get it?

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17 Mar 2017 04:47:15
Don't worry, Red Sox Guy, I never pegged you to be astute enough to recognize when someone made a joke.

Seriously, read it again. Slowly. Maybe you'll see the joke. Then again, probably not.

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17 Mar 2017 04:55:19
Lol, it took me a minute, but I got it. Bravo.

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20 Mar 2017 15:33:24
Oh! I get it!

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20 Mar 2017 17:00:35
For those that don't get it (looking at you, Red Sox Guy), here's a hint:

There are no misspelled words in the original post.

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21 Mar 2017 01:21:28
What are you, 12?

We got it the first time. It was stupid then. stupid now.

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21 Mar 2017 03:31:53
"GET OFF MY LAWN! " -Red Sox Guy, 2017.

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21 Mar 2017 03:34:24
Also, based on your initial response, I don't think you're fooling anyone into thinking you got the joke.

You thought it was a serious idea. Admit it.

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21 Mar 2017 13:45:05
DANG Red Sox Guy. Don't know why u are so mad.

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21 Mar 2017 18:10:59
Lay off lol.

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21 Mar 2017 19:53:41
This is a real petty argument now. Its gone to far for the both of you.

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21 Mar 2017 20:15:12
Red Sox Guy is a perpetual bully on this site. Its nice too see someone give him his due. Expos made a funny joke and Red Sox got all pissy.

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21 Mar 2017 20:16:51
My apologies, everyone.

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23 Mar 2017 02:40:56
Haven't been on site for a bit. This thread made me laugh. Just a little.

Looking forward to upcoming new season, anyone wanna throw out some predictions?

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26 Mar 2017 15:00:15
I don't get it?

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27 Mar 2017 03:42:12
It's a "numb" trade. Nova-Cain trade.

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28 Mar 2017 01:53:44
Nah, it's just juvenile. exposfan, if you were just having fun, no problem. I get that. But it's a lame joke.

If I hadn't gotten the joke, I would have said something like "the Pirates don't need another OF with Polanco, Marte, Cutch and Meadows in Pittsburgh. "

Instead, I just stated my perception that you probably tried to make others laugh in school - last week, of course - and instead, found out that you weren't a joker, just a joke.

But you believe whatever you want.

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28 Mar 2017 17:53:32
I know this trade isn't serious, but I'm curious why jetjet thinks the royals get screwed? I think it's the opposite. Three affordable years of nova seems more valuable than one year of Cain, and the pirates have no need for Cain. Nova would find a spot in KC, and has a good contract. The pirates would not be able to keep Cain after this year.

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29 Mar 2017 16:16:49
so because you don't find a joke funny you insult people? You need to find something better to do with your time.

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29 Mar 2017 23:04:15
"exposfan, if you were just having fun, no problem. I get that. "

No, I don't think you do. Because I was just having fun, and you lambasted me.

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12 Mar 2017 03:57:25
Royals trade: Kyle Zimmer Jorge bonifacio Samir duenez peter o brien jake junis Ryan o Hearn
Blue jays trade: Aaron Sanchez Marcus stroman

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13 Mar 2017 23:10:59
Jays rejected Stroman for Blackmon, they're not trading him and Sanchez for prospects not even in the top 100.

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23 Mar 2017 02:41:54
Jay's wouldn't trade Sanchez for almost anybody right now, so let's not even go there please.

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30 Mar 2017 08:08:41
If the Blue Jays add Donaldson, we'll call it fair.

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07 Mar 2017 23:50:34
White Sox Get:

Mallex Smith OF
Willy Adames SS
Jake Bauers 1B/OF

Rays Get:

Jose Quintana

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08 Mar 2017 11:50:43
Rays aren't giving up their future. The rays wouldn't do this, and as a fan, I wouldn't think it's good for the rays.

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08 Mar 2017 13:36:54
Aren't the Rays sort of rebuilding? This wouldn't be a process of rebuilding.

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08 Mar 2017 19:05:38
The rays don't really need quintana either. If they want to contend, they are better off spending their prospects on a bat.

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10 Mar 2017 12:01:57
Makes no sense for either team.

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10 Mar 2017 20:53:54
Makes total sense for the white sox. 3 bats with really high potential. They get someone to play 3rd in the long run and a future 1B. Also, M. Smith has a ton of upside with his tools. And there were reports that TB was interested. A controllable pitcher that would give them a top 5 MLB staff. They want controllable talent. Complete team rebuild wouldn't constitute a Wilson Ramos signing. Didn't PECOTA pick them to finish second in the east? They are not in a total rebuild.

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12 Mar 2017 21:51:32
Chi Sox, you are right. I stand corrected. It makes sense for your team.

But, it makes no sense at all for Tampa. The Rays have struggled to generate runs for years, and those three guys have some potential.

The Rays also have plenty of SP, with Archer, Cobb, Odorizzi, Snell, Andriese, Erasmo and Honeywell on hand.

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13 Mar 2017 17:15:34
The first 3 guys you mentioned are legit. The rest are very questionable - at least for 2017. Archer is a #2 in a contending rotation. Some in the league believe that when you have a strong suit, like the Rays pitching, you should try to make that strong suit even stronger.

It's not like I see Q going to Tampa, I just think if they did end up making a push for him, this would be the return.

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