19 Dec 2014 16:46:31
I know it isn't likely so don't bash me. Just curious if this is a proper package to get tulo if the mets went that route. I only mention this bc apparently they've been discussing a deal for "weeks" that will be based around syndergaard according to espns adam rubin

Rockies get: Noah syndergaard, Dillon gee, Kevin plawcki, Wilmer Flores

Mets get: Tulo and 20% of the remaining contract


1.) 20 Dec 2014
That sounds about right to me, but I think Tulo is made of glass.


2.) 20 Dec 2014
Seems about right, mets may have to include montero as well for rockies to eat 20%


3.) 20 Dec 2014
Swap Flores for Montero or another piece. Actually, I bet it could even get done without Flores or even adding anyone. On the right track if a deal was actually being considered in my opinion.


4.) 20 Dec 2014
20 Dec 2014 04:57:16
The report is that Colorado is wanting a return that would make Mets fans "cringe"

Mets fans, unless you are a self-sadist, none of your projected packages will get you Tulo. Just sign Asdrubal Cabrera or Stephen Drew and move on.


5.) 20 Dec 2014
Yea, if its going to make us cringe it ain't happening just thought I made an interesting trade. tulo isn't worth trading a lot for but if I can get him without losing harvey wheeler degrom its tough to pass on him


6.) 20 Dec 2014
20 Dec 2014 06:13:07
I'd pass. His career numbers outside of Coors are pedestrian. 247/.349/.469 as opposed to .323/.397/.565.

He's injury-prone and has a terrible contract. he's owed $116M through his age 35 season (2020) with an option in 2021.


7.) 20 Dec 2014
^ may be a short sample size but he's killed it at citi field. if getting him won't set the franchise back and we keep our big 3 i'm all in for it!


8.) 20 Dec 2014
20 Dec 2014 15:49:19
^He killed it at Citi Field facing Mets pitching. If all those pitchers suddenly join other teams, you may have a point.


9.) 20 Dec 2014
20 Dec 2014 15:50:01
And I made a mistake on Tulo's slash-line. 274 (not .247)/.349/.469


10.) 20 Dec 2014
To natedub, kinda irrelevent my point is that he had no issue hitting in our ballpark


11.) 20 Dec 2014
20 Dec 2014 18:29:51
I think you're missing the point. Using ballpark splits to gauge how someone would play in that stadium for a whole year is a flawed concept.

Troy Tulowitzki's stats at Citi Field come with Dillon Gee, Jon Niese, and other pitchers facing him. He will now join those guys. Will he hit the same numbers in that ballpark with Washington or Miami pitchers facing him? That's the issue with ballpark splits. It's only good if he continues to face those pitchers who he tore up at Citi.


12.) 21 Dec 2014
What does that even mean? Just cause he isn't facing mets pitchers hell suck at citi field? can't base it on that


13.) 21 Dec 2014
21 Dec 2014 04:39:27
It doesn't mean he won't. but ballpark splits make it close to impossible to gauge how he will play in that park in the future.