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18 Nov 2019 17:13:01
Most of the teams that have been thrown around in the Mookie Betts rumor mill are the usual suspects. Big market teams, and the top farm systems in San Diego and Atlanta.
One team that I think should be in the conversation, maybe before any of those others, is Minnesota. They have a good number of top prospects, were just a triple digit win team who might actually be one big addition or two away from winning it all, and they are in a city that not many players are looking to go, which means an all in push for a top player could be worth the prospects that Boston would want.
More than likely, Mookie isn't going to stick around past this season, but teams like San Diego, Atlanta and the other top market teams have the luxury of slow builds. The Twins don't have that. They aren't going to be the group that lures Cole or Rendon. They'll have to give up the goods in order to get past the Yankees in the playoffs. If I'm them, I think I bring in Mookie full boat, bring on Price at a portion of his contract, and give up a couple of promising prospects in return, thinking this could be the year. Of all teams, they know that prospects don't always pan out (Buxton injuries) and they rarely have a shot at a sure thing. Also, a single ring is a big enough deal there, that they might as well swing for the fences. If/When he leaves, they at least made the push.
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21 Nov 2019 13:08:14
I doubt Mookie brings in much more than Goldschmidt did last season.
So, think 2-3 players who are MLB ready, but none who are lights out players. Kelly, Weaver, and Young are all pretty good players, but none of them are household names.
I doubt Betts commands much more than that.
01 Nov 2019 05:09:08
Who can the yankees pawn Giancarlo Stanton on?
SD?
SF?
You Tell Me.
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01 Nov 2019 11:51:42
Stanton would have to be tied to an elite prospect, and the return would be minimal.
So, maybe Stanton + Florial to San Francisco for Jeff Samardzija. That'd get the job done.
15 Oct 2019 17:56:06
My Manager predictions
Angels- Joe Maddon
Cubs- Joe Girardi
Giants- Gabe Kapler
Mets- Carlos Beltran
Pirates- Derek Shelton
Phillies- Buck Showalter
Royals- Mike Matheny
Padres- Jayce Tingler
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05 Sep 2019 14:16:25
The Royals 2018 pitching draft class looks pretty damn impressive so far..
Pick/Player/Level/ERA/IP/SO
16- Brady Singer/AA/2.85/148.1/138
33- Jackson Kowar/AA/3.52/148.1/144
34- Daniel Lynch/A+/2.99/96.1/96
40- Kris Bubic/A+/2.23/149.1/185
58- Jonathan Bowlan/A+/3.14/146.0/150
152- Austin Cox/A+/2.76/130.2/129
185- Zach Haake/A/2.70/80.0/94
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19 Jun 2019 13:45:34
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28 May 2019 23:49:48
What if...
The following is a re-draft of the top 10 picks from each draft from 2005-2013. Obviously some of these picks were/would have been traded as prospects, so the possibilities are endless. These drafts feature the top 10 players from each draft, and the team they would have gone to. Assuming these players would have gone on to stardom with a different team than the one they went to, how would the big leagues look today? Where would certain teams be?
2005:
1. Andrew McCutchen to the D-Backs
2. Ryan Braun to the Royals
3. Michael Brantley to the Mariners
4. Jay Bruce to the Nationals
5. Troy Tulowitzki to the Brewers
6. Justin Upton to the Blue Jays
7. Alex Gordon to the Rockies
8. Brett Gardner to the Rays
9. Jacoby Ellsbury to the Mets
10. Jed Lowrie to the Tigers
2006:
1. Clayton Kershaw to the Royals
2. Max Scherzer to the Rockies
3. Tim Lincecum to the Rays
4. Justin Turner to the Pirates
5. Evan Longoria to the Mariners
6. Andrew Miller to the Tigers
7. Zach Britton to the Dodgers
8. Chris Davis to the Reds
9. Dellin Betances to the Orioles
10. Jeff Samardzija to the Giants
2007:
1. Madison Bumgarner to the Rays
2. Giancarlo Stanton to the Royals
3. Corey Kluber to the Cubs
4. Anthony Rizzo to the Pirates
5. Freddie Freeman to the Orioles
6. David Price to the Nationals
7. Josh Donaldson to the Brewers
8. Jake Arrieta to the Rockies
9. Zack Cozart to the Diamondbacks
10. Jordan Zimmermann to the Giants
2008:
1. Craig Kimbrel to the Rays
2. Buster Posey to the Pirates
3. Eric Hosmer to the Royals
4. Charlie Blackmon to the Orioles
5. Dee Gordon to the Giants
6. Lance Lynn to the Marlins
7. Justin Smoak to the Reds
8. Pedro Alvarez to the White Sox
9. Brandon Crawford to the Nationals
10. Wade Miley to the Astros
2009:
1. Mike Trout to the Nationals
2. Nolan Arenado to the Mariners
3. Paul Goldschmidt to the Padres
4. JD Martinez to the Pirates
5. Stephen Strasburg to the Orioles
6. Matt Carpenter to the Giants
7. Dallas Keuchel to the Braves
8. Patrick Corbin to the Reds
9. DJ Lemahieu to the Tigers
10. AJ Pollock to the Nationals
2010:
1. Christian Yelich to the Nationals
2. Bryce Harper to the Pirates
3. Chris Sale to the Orioles
4. Manny Machado to the Royals
5. Jacob deGrom to the Indians
6. Noah Syndergaard to the Diamondbacks
7. JT Realmuto to the Mets
8. Matt Harvey to the Astros
9. Yasmani Grandal to the Padres
10. James Paxton to the A's
2011:
1. Mookie Betts to the Pirates
2. Javier Baez to the Mariners
3. Francisco Lindor to the Diamondbacks
4. Gerrit Cole to the Orioles
5. Blake Snell to the Royals
6. George Springer to the Nationals
7. Jose Fernandez to the Diamondbacks
8. Sonny Gray to the Indians
9. Jackie Bradley Jr to the Cubs
10. Michael Fulmer to the Padres
2012:
1. Carlos Correa to the Astros
2. Corey Seager to the Twins
3. Josh Hader to the Mariners
4. Addison Russell to the Orioles
5. Chris Taylor to the Royals
6. Edwin Diaz to the Cubs
7. Michael Wacha to the Padres
8. Jose Berrios to the Pirates
9. Lance McCullers to the Marlins
10. Max Muncy to the Rockies
2013:
1. Kris Bryant to the Astros
2. Cody Bellinger to the Cubs
3. Aaron Judge to the Rockies
4. Corey Knebel to the Twins
5. Luke Voit to the Indians
6. Clint Frazier to the Marlins
7. Hunter Renfroe to the Red Sox
8. Sean Manaea to the Royals
9. Tim Anderson to the Pirates
10. Jon Gray to the Blue Jays
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10 Jul 2019 19:24:58
How did you determine the top 10? Based on WAR alone, in 2008, Posey was the best player drafted, and it hasn't even been close. (41.7 WAR compared to 19.8 for Kimbrel) .
04 May 2019 17:54:30
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27 Apr 2019 23:49:36
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18 Mar 2019 19:31:19
SEASON PREDICTION
AL EAST
Red Sox 98-64
Yankees 97-65
Rays 81-81
Blue Jays 66-96
Orioles 62-100
AL CENTRAL
Indians 89-73
Twins 86-76
White Sox 72-90
Tigers 70-92
Royals 60-102
AL WEST
Astros 101-61
Angels 86-76
Athletics 84-78
Rangers 76-86
Mariners 72-90
NL EAST
Phillies 95-67
Mets 88-74
Nationals 86-76
Braves 85-77
Marlins 55-107
NL CENTRAL
Cubs 101-61
Cardinals 85-77
Brewers 84-78
Reds 79-83
Pirates 77-85
NL WEST
Dodgers 92-70
Rockies 83-79
Padres 76-86
Diamondbacks 73-89
Giants 69-93
AL PLAYOFFS
Wild Card
4 Yankees vs 5 Twins
ALDS
1 Astros vs 4 Yankees
2 Red Sox vs 3 Indians
ALCS
4 Yankees vs 2 Red Sox
WS
4 Yankees
NL PLAYOFFS
Wild Card
4 Mets vs 5 Nationals
NLDS
1 Cubs vs 4 Mets
2 Phillies vs 3 Dodgers
NLCS
1 Cubs vs 2 Phillies
WS
1 Cubs
WORLD SERIES
1 Cubs vs 4 Yankees
WS Champion
1 Cubs
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18 Mar 2019 23:58:07
we found the Cubs fan, everyone.
19 Mar 2019 01:55:32
The Cubs winning the division by 16 games is the most ridiculous thing I've seen on this site, perhaps ever.
20 Mar 2019 15:10:38
1, not a Cubs fan.
2, in the past six seasons, at least one team has won their division by 12 games or more.
3, the Cubs now have Hamels and Darvish (combined for 20 starts for CHC last season) replacing Chatwood and Montgomery (4.75 ERA combined last season) .
4, They get Bryant back (missed 60 games last season) .
5, They're one of the deepest teams in the league to offset injuries.
They may not win by 16, but they will win 100 games and easily win the division.
20 Mar 2019 15:31:57
The NL Central is probably the best division in baseball. The Cardinals got better. The Reds got better. The Brewers are really damn good. To suggest the Cubs, who didn't even win the division last year suddenly take an improved division by 16 games is completely laughable.
You also have the Brewers losing 12 more games from 2018. Did you think last season was a total fluke?
As far as "deepest team". I'm confused by that suggestion. They have literally zero farm system. Their bullpen is atrocious. Their bench depth isn't what it was praised to be. And several of their "stars" aren't that good (Zobrist, Schwarber, Heyward, Happ) .
They might win the division. It will, by no means be "easily".
21 Mar 2019 16:23:44
Flawed logic, you completely ignore the Brewers won the division last year and yes it was because of the one game playoff. But they have improved from last year, the Cardinals have gotten better, and the Reds have gotten better, and the Pirates are the Pirates, so winning the division by 16 games and winning 100 games in that division won't happen.
01 Oct 2019 18:14:00
That Cubs prediction. Yikes.
18 Feb 2019 09:23:01
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29 Jan 2019 16:00:33
I think Machado and/or Harper should sign a contract with an opt-out after 1 year. The market just isn't there this year. I don't see them chancing it and signing a 1 year deal, but i think they will require an opt-out after year one to give them a chance to enter next year (age 27) to see if the market is better.
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31 Jan 2019 00:29:20
Both Arrieta and Hosmer signed very generous deals late into the winter. Arrieta didn't even sign until March 12th last year.
There is zero reason for either of those guys to panic yet. They'll get paid.
31 Jan 2019 15:00:21
Although i agree they shouldn't panic, my comment was more towards what i think would be best for them. Outside of Philly and Chicago (AL) there doesn't seem to be anyone willing to give Machado anywhere near what he is wanting. As for Harper, i think the only teams in are Philly and Washington. Unless another team comes from nowhere (which is very possible) and offers a crazy deal, then i could easily see them pushing for an opt-out after year one to at least give them an option.
20 Mar 2019 15:33:43
23 years, $630 million combined.
The market seemed to work out just fine for them.
25 Jan 2019 05:09:40
Top 10 By Position
C:
Realmuto
Posey
Sanchez
Perez
Molina
Contreras
Ramos
Grandal
Gomes
Zunino
1B:
Goldschmidt
Votto
Freeman
Cabrera
Rizzo
Abreu
Hosmer
Hoskins
Belt
Santana
2B:
Altuve
Cano
Murphy
Dozier
Torres
LaMahieu
Lowrie
Pedroia
Kinsler
3B:
Arenado
Ramirez
Donaldson
Bryant
Bregman
Turner
Rendon
Chapman
Andujar
Seager
SS:
Machado
Lindor
Correa
Seager
Boegarts
Gregorius
Simmons
Segura
Turner
Crawford
LF:
Acuna
Soto
Benintendi
Brantley
Cespedes
Upton
Davis
Kemp
Ozuna
Braun
CF:
Trout
Springer
Blackmon
Cain
Marte
Pollock
Hicks
Kiermaier
Pillar
Buxton
RF:
Betts
Judge
Harper
Yelich
Martinez
Stanton
Haniger
Conforto
Peralta
Bruce
SP:
Kershaw
Scherzer
Sale
Kluber
deGrom
Bumgarner
Snell
Syngergaard
Severino
Lester
RP:
Jansen
Diaz
Chapman
Kimbrel
Britton
Miller
Betances
Davis
Hader
Robertson
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29 Jan 2019 16:41:47
Jay Bruce and Ian Kinsler shouldn't even be discussed when it comes to top 10. That alone makes this awful, but the fact that you missed so many great players shows you don't really follow baseball
Players missing that shouldn't be
1B Matt Carpenter
1B Jesus Aguilar
2B Ozzie Albies?
2B Scooter Gennett
2B Whit Merrifield
SS Trevor Story
LF Eddie Rosario
SP Justin Verlander
SP Gerritt Cole
SP Aaron Nola.
24 Jan 2019 17:36:37
Top 10 By Position
C:
Realmuto
Posey
Sanchez
Perez
Molina
Contreras
Ramos
Grandal
Gomes
Zunino
1B:
Goldschmidt
Votto
Freeman
Cabrera
Rizzo
Abreu
Hosmer
Hoskins
Belt
Santana
2B:
Altuve
Cano
Murphy
Dozier
Torres
LaMahieu
Lowrie
Pedroia
Kinsler
3B:
Arenado
Ramirez
Donaldson
Bryant
Bregman
Turner
Rendon
Chapman
Andujar
Seager
SS:
Machado
Lindor
Correa
Seager
Boegarts
Gregorius
Simmons
Segura
Turner
Crawford
LF:
Acuna
Soto
Benintendi
Brantley
Cespedes
Upton
Davis
Kemp
Ozuna
Braun
CF:
Trout
Springer
Blackmon
Cain
Marte
Pollock
Hicks
Kiermaier
Pillar
Buxton
RF:
Betts
Judge
Harper
Yelich
Martinez
Stanton
Haniger
Conforto
Peralta
Bruce
SP:
Kershaw
Scherzer
Sale
Kluber
deGrom
Bumgarner
Snell
Syngergaard
Severino
Lester
RP:
Jansen
Diaz
Chapman
Kimbrel
Britton
Miller
Betances
Davis
Hader
Robertson
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21 Jan 2019 22:50:40
So, thestatbook, now that Sonny Gray was traded to the Reds for Shed Long and a Draft pick, with Long then being traded to the Mariners for Josh Stowers, wouldn't you say this was better than people thought. I recall you said they wouldn't get a teams top 30 prospect and chastising me for saying it. However, Long was number 6 on the Reds list, and Stowers is 10 on the Mariners. While he may not pan out, they still got a top 10 prospect and a draft pick.
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22 Jan 2019 14:45:23
The context was different. The Reds did this after they were given a window to try and extend Gray before the trade.
Every indication suggests they wouldn’t have made that trade without being able to extend Gray. So, yes, it’s better than people thought, but it’s also an entirely different scenario.
22 Jan 2019 15:33:17
And for what it's worth, it's almost unanimous that the Reds significantly overpaid for Gray, even with the extension.
The value "price" for Gray (at a rental cost) was a lot lower. Check out what "reclamation" SPs got who were 1-year rentals in recent offseasons:
-Tanner Roark cost the Reds Tanner Rainey, a 26-year-old run-of-the-mill reliever.
-Ivan Nova cost the White Sox Yordi Rosario, a low-ceiling, low floor future middle reliever.
-Matt Moore, just last season, cost the Rangers Sam Wolff, who wasn't even protected by the Giants.
So, based on history, you can see why people would virtually agree that the price tag for Gray should have been along those lines. It's also why many teams rightly pulled out after they heard what the Yankees wanted for him. The Reds, apparently, are stupid enough to play Gray in their tiny ballpark and overpay for him to play there.
Again, the value changed once he signed an extension.
24 Jan 2019 17:12:14
way to spin so it looks like you were right. There is no way to determine what they what have gotten without the Reds desire for an extension. The same prospect was rumored to be in the trade well before there was word of a possible extension. There were also agreements with other teams in place had an extension not happened.
24 Jan 2019 21:40:11
I'm not spinning anything. I'm simply stating that the context of the trade that occurred and the context of the trade we were projecting are different.
If anything, I did my due diligence in showing WHY I made the prediction I made. A trade for one year of Gray probably would have been in line with the trades I showed above. I don't think any of that was unreasonable.
Please, BATMAN!, if you feel the need to make an entire post in an attack on someone, at least make some attempt to see the context of what actually occurred. You didn't do this, and now your post seems even pettier than it was to begin with.
25 Jan 2019 13:36:26
So this really wasn't to attack you, just to see what you thought after you basically told me they wouldn't get a decent return, despite what insiders were saying. Trust me I could have been more egotistical about this and really gloated, but that's not what I wanted to do.
25 Jan 2019 13:43:04
And to be clear, it was mainly to get your opinion, which I respect, but I only felt the post was somewhat necessary after our discussion when Gray trade discussion started.
25 Jan 2019 18:06:03
All of the discussion that was had about Sonny Gray centered around Gray being a 1-year rental for whatever team acquired him.
If we knew that the acquiring team was going to extend him on a really friendly contract, of course the discussion was going to change. That was a crucial detail that no one knew back in November/ December when we had these conversations.
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